g'day folks, how's the weekend going?
not too strenuous i hope.
but just in case you're at a 'loose end', here's something to give you a little 'light relief'.
I've been gone for about 25 years, but I do remember that in actuallity the placement of literature was always on contribution, I mean that is what we told people, "I would like to leave this Watchtower magazine along with it's companion the Awake for a contribution of 10 cents" (OH WOW I just gave away my age LOL)
But to me as soon as I heard about it, it sounded like a tax scam.
Seedy
my mother was having a moment while she went to visit a friend a few weeks ago, worrying about me being disfellowshiped and having our relationship change.
the sister told my mom, that i could not be disfellowshiped because i am not an active memeber of the congregation.
supposedly, her daughter was a full time pioneer, stopped attending meetings, and realized that she is a lesbian.
I was DF'd about 5 years, If I can remember, after I quit attending meetings and such. Now in my situation, I had left my, now ex, wife and then was getting remarried, I had moved 300 miles away from the congregation, I had no contact with any JW's in any way for over 2 years, outside of my now ex-wife, was not known as a JW by anyone that knew me, nor had I expressed that I even used to be one, except to my new bride and her family. Butttt I got DF'd anyway.
Seedy
i need a little research help - .
i'm having an argument with a dub and a couple of dub sympathizers, and the dub refuses to say that only jws will live through armageddon.
he keeps repeating "only god can read the ehart" as if it was the new dub mantra.. i only have the 1995 cd, and i would really , really like to be able to offer some quotes from more recent wts books and magaziines that state that only dubs will survive armageddon.. if i'm wrong and the message has changed, i'd like to know that too.. if the message has changed, why bother preaching?
Natas,
Here is their "Public" stance on the issue from their own media page:
Do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?But although not lieing as to the real stand they take they actually side-step the question. Alan F has a good article posted at http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/saved.htmNo. Many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah's Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life. Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before God's time of judgment, and they will gain salvation. Moreover, Jesus said that we should not be judging one another. Humans look at the outward appearance; God looks at the heart. He sees accurately and judges mercifully. God has committed judgment into Jesus' hands, not ours.—Matthew 7:1-5; John 5:22, 27.
Watctower Sept 1. 1989, pg 19
Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil. (Revelation 7:9-17; 2 Corinthians 4:4) They will make up the "flesh" that Jesus Christ said would be saved through the worst tribulation of all human history. As it was in the days of Noah, said Jesus, so it would be in the day when He would be revealed. Inside the ark that took many years of organized effort to complete, only eight human souls survived the global Deluge. They survived as a united family group. (Matthew 24:22, 37-39; Luke 17:26-30) Noah's wife corresponds to the bride of Christ, and his sons and daughters-in-law to Jesus' present-day "other sheep," who have grown into an increasing great crowd, the final proportions of which we do not now know. (John 10:16) For survival into the Millennium under the Greater Noah, Jesus Christ, they have to remain organized with the anointed remnant, "the chosen ones" on account of whom the days of the "great tribulation" will be cut short.Give the site a read, there are some newer quotes then from the 1995
Seedy
may 23, 2002. mrs. barbara anderson.
c/o jerre michael hood .
37396. dear mrs. anderson,.
AK,
You spelled that wrong, it is spelled Kangaroo Kourt, you used a proper C in court, and being this is not a proper funtion it should be given due respect of spelling it "Kourt". LOL J/K he he he he
Seedy
just curious if your parents still have contact with you after you have been df'd/da'd.
mine have stood by w/strong convictions not to have contact w/me.
they have to have some being that i have kids that they want to see (but that is very minimal).
My family does not really shunn me, My mother is in her 80's and asks that I call her, the only other relitive I have in the B-org is my older sister, although we have never really been close, even when I was a borg member myself she didn't have a lot of contact. When I back in the States last summer we had a family get together, my mother and jdub sister showed up for the BBQ. So I cna't really say I have ever been shunned.
Seedy
hi brothers and sisters.
i am a jw circuit overseer.
you are welcome to visit my pages.. http://www.angelfire.dom/ky/proclaimer.
Hi FreePeace,
Actually if you read the entire page I think you will see it all satire, showing the stupidity of their policies. I doubt it is even any real posts there I think he is posting Q's and Answers to himself.
Seedy
P.S. jst2, I think if you look on his advice page, the last advice he gives is based on the Governing body and the justification for their stupidity.
hi brothers and sisters.
i am a jw circuit overseer.
you are welcome to visit my pages.. http://www.angelfire.dom/ky/proclaimer.
I didn't notice anyone post anything about his advice page.........perhaps you all over looked it? It has some great stuff on it take a look.
http://www.angelfire.com/ky/proclaimer/607.html
Seedy
hi brothers and sisters.
i am a jw circuit overseer.
you are welcome to visit my pages.. http://www.angelfire.dom/ky/proclaimer.
LOL......... I rather enjoyed his website, especially the article about cats, this quote really droveit home about how demonic cats are:
The demeanor of a cat is seen by many honest-hearted observers as reflecting some supernatural, unnatural proclivity towards malice or evil. And, it is a well-known fact that cats are impossible to tame, teach or raise in the truth. The cat has a rebellious, independent spirit. While the animal itself may be unaware of this tragic condition, it serves only its true master - Satan, the Devil.LOL that's great information to know LOL.
Seedy
this article is ooooold...but so funny that i had to post it....sorry i don't have a link........ the associated press.
february 10, 1986, monday, pm cycle .
headline: local church wins fight with national office .
Hmmmm, Now this I do not quite understand. When I was active as a Jdub, I remember being in a few congragations that built new or remodeled a KH, each time we got a loan from the WTS for the project. I also remeber we as a congragation had to repay the WTS for the project, meaning that we as a congragation paid for the KH. So where would the WTS get off feeling that they own the building? I could understand it if they had a lein on it and it came into default, but as long as the loan was kept up, it should belong to the local congragation, shouldn't it??
Seedy
so with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.
did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.
is that how it happened?
Barry,
The "400's" was a typo I didn't catch, it was suppose to be the "300's".
Seedy
