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McDonalds Prohibited?

by DakotaRed in

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given how the org went after tobacco in the late sixties, resulting in it's total prohibition in the early seventies, based on the health communities claims of how bad it was destroying the body (a claim not disputed by me) and how they made it a disfellowshipping offense to smoke, chew or otherwise use tobacco, i wonder if they will now ban eating at mcdonalds?.

there is a group out there of health professionals (or claimed) that wish to heavily tax mcdonalds and other so called junk food places.

the taxes would be used to treat all the millions of people who are afflicted with the dreaded disease of obesity and to combat the rising costs of treating these poor misguided individuals that have been led astray, thinking they were getting healthy food at the loacl greasy pits.. will the elders start smelling everyone's breath upon entry to the kingdom halls for tell tale signs of mustard and pickles?

seedy3

Funny you should mention this. As a kid growing up in a typical California JW household (if that can be called typical), back in the 60's, I remember a time when we were not allowed to eat at McD's. This was not so much set down by the WTS as it seemed to be a local belief and rumor, about some supposed brother that took a McD's burger and had it tested at some sort of lab. It supposedly contained BLOOD (!!! OH MY). So the good little J-duds that we were boycotted the place for years. I don't really know what changed, but it seemed we started eating there again in the 70's. So far as I know there is blood in all the meat we eat, kinda hard to get rid of all of it.

I guess I'm really just reminising LOL

Seedy

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If this letter has already been posted. . .

by drahcir yarrum in

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the following letter was sent to the principal's office at a middle school in safety harbor, florida.

the letter was in response to a school sponsored luncheon for the elderly.

it is a testament to the human kindness that lives within each of us.. dear safety harbor middle school:.

seedy3

Now that is funny!! Ahh such kindness we show each other in times of need. I'm still laughing.

seedy

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Russell quotes

by larc in

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my local library has the studies in the scriptures by russell.

here are a few quotes for vol.

2, 1906 edition.. 1872. six thousand years from the creation of adam were complete in a.d. 1872, and hence that since a.d. 1872, we chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the millenium.".

seedy3

I'm sure many of you are familiar with the "Dawn Bible Students", they are one of the break off groups that left when the drunk took over the WTS after Russell died. If anyone is interested, they still print the "Studies in the Scriptures", I however am not sure, how much has been edited over the years. They are relitivly cheap between $2-3 a volume and about $1-1.50 for shipping, or the whole set for $12 and $3 shipping (all amounts are US). They have a websight with an online order form. Here is the publication link if your interested. http://www.dawnbible.com/dawnpub.htm

seedy

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The Un-born

by seedy3 in

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i have a question.

according to the beliefs of the jw's do the unborn babies take part in the resurection after the "great day"??

i need to have some reference in the wt literature.

seedy3

I do aprecieate, the comments on the subject, and agree with much of what you are saying. I feel life starts in the womb, not at birth, but that actually is another issue. Somehow I recall my parents (JW) believing that if the baby died in the womb, it would not have a resurection. A correct view or wrong view is really not the point of what I am looking for. I find it sort of hard to beleive that the Governing Booty, would never have adderssed this issue in at least a "Question from readers" or such. The right or wrong view is not n question, it is just "What is their view on it"? Has it ever been addressed and if so where?

Thanks again
seedy

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The Un-born

by seedy3 in

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i have a question.

according to the beliefs of the jw's do the unborn babies take part in the resurection after the "great day"??

i need to have some reference in the wt literature.

seedy3

I have a question. According to the beliefs of the JW's do the unborn babies take part in the resurection after the "great day"?? I need to have some reference in the WT literature. I would do the research on the subject but I no longer have the material (JW) to do the research. But it was a question that came up on the different beliefs, from a JW friend of mine and I said I didn't think they did take part in the resurection. He said that they did, but he had no evidence either. Could someone help me out here with WT Publicaton references PLEASE :)

Thanks in advance
seedy

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Hey Women! Faithful Slave Sez You're Dumb!

by metatron in

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oh, this is gonna be fun!.

the august 22, 1967 awake has an article entitled.

"i do not permit a woman to exercise authority.

seedy3

Hey jigrigger

Interesting quotes, I've seen a couple of the ones you posted but never the one that includes the Chinese. Funny thing about the people of China, many of the things we take advantage of or think of as "modern inventions" were invented in China and then some were lost with time. Even some of our sports such as Golf and Soccer (football for many of you). The compass, seismic (earthquake) dectection devices, gunpowder, ect. ect. Even our prized porcelain wares were all invented in china, many years even centuries before these, "keenly" intelligent "white" people discovered them.

Ahhh such is the ex-sperts that the WTS uses. I remember the quotes from ex-sperts that the WTS used, saying that getting a vaccination, transplant, or blood transfusion, would cause you to become "animal like" or become like the person that the transplants or blood were taken from (i.e. if he/she were a murderer, you would be much like that person). I wonder where they get these experts, they must scour the world looking for some idiot with a degree to say something like these.

seedy

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One God--Moses 1st?

by patio34 in

i've been doing a little research into a pharoah named akhenaten.

been coming up with some variances in dates and would like to know if anyone else has run across this info.. akhenaten (amenhotep iv) reigned 1379-1362 bc.

according to 'the bible timeline' moses was born in 1355 bc, right after akhenaten.

seedy3

Some interesting reading I have found on this subject;

Moses "simply means 'born of'. The name normally required another name prefixed to it, such as Thothmoses (born of Thoth), Rameses (born of Ra) or Amenmosis (born of Amen) Whilst the 'moses' element is spelt slightly differently when rendered in English, they all mean the same thing and it seems very likely to us that either Moses himself or some later scribe dropped the name of an Egyptian god from the front of his name."
The birth narrative of Sargon I, who ruled over Babylon and Sumer hundred of years before Moses states his mother "set me in a basket of rushes; with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river, which rose not over me."
"...The birth story is almost certainly a fiction created in the sixth century BC echoing, for the birth of the Jewish nation, the ancient theme of creation emerging from the waters."
- Christopher Knight & Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

"Moses was a skilled performer of magical rituals and was deeply learned in the knowledge of the accompanying spells, incantations, and magical formulas of every description...[Moreover] the miracles which he wrought...suggest that he was not only a priest, but a magician of the highest order and perhaps even a Ker Heb [Egyptian High Priest]."
- Sir E. A. Wallis Budge, From Fetish to God in Ancient Egypt

"Moses, a son of the tribe of Levi, educated in Egypt and initiated at Heliopolis, became a High Priest of the Brotherhood under the reign of Pharaoh Amenhotep [Akhnaton]. He was elected by the Hebrews as their chief and he adapted to the ideas of his people the science and philosophy which he had obtained in the Egyptian mysteries; proofs of this are to be found in the symbols, in the Initiations, and in his precepts and commandments....The dogma of an 'only god' which he taught was the Egyptian Brotherhood interpretation and teaching of the Pharaoh who established the first monotheistic religion known to man."
- Egyptian High Priest Manetho (3rd Century BC)

"If Moses was a High Priest of the Brotherhood under Akhnaton, as Manetho states, but did not lead the exodus until the reign of Rameses II, as many historians believe, then Moses must have been an extremely old man at the time of the exodus. (Rameses II did not rule until almost one hundred years after Akhnaton.) The Bible, in Deuteronomy 34:7 states that Moses was 120 years old when he died."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

The stories in much of the OT seems to have much in common with the ideals of the Egyptian monotheists, as well had a lot of influence from the Zorastra beliefs after the fall of Babylon.

The historian Philadelphus, writing on the origins of the Greek translations of the Old Testament, stated that the Scriptures had perished during the captivity of the Jews while in Babylon. And that at the time of Artxerxes king of the Persians, that Ezra the Levite priest having become inspired in the exercise of prophesy then restored again the whole of the ancient Scriptures.

One last interesting quote:

After killing an Egyptian hitting a Habiru, Moses "went on the run, heading east into the Sinai where he was taken in by the Midianites (also called Kenites) and where he married the king's daughter, Zipporah.
"It was here that Moses was introduced to the god of the Midianite tribes, a god of storms and of war whose symbol was a crucifix-like motif worn on their foreheads; it later became known as the 'Yahweh Mark'. This god, who lived in the mountains, provided the inspiration and central theme for the God of the Jews following Moses's conversations with Him on Mount Horeb."
- Christopher Knight & Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

Food for thought.

seedy

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Bible Chapters...

by Mr Magoo in

can anyone give me a list over the names/labels in the bible (john, jerimiah, psalms...) in the order they appear.. or a list with the names/labels translated into danish... i'm having a hard time looking up verses i find in this forum, in my danish bible.. (actually i don't have a bible - but it's on the internet).. thank you.

take care.

mr. magoo

seedy3

Hi Mr Magoo

I just wanted to let you know, if you want to view and english bible as well there are several posted on the internet also.

< http://blueletterbible.org/

this is one I like and it has about 8 versions.

seedy3

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Waiting's Never-ending Joke Thread

by Seven in

happy monday!.

had no price tag.

much to her embarrassment the cashier got on the intercom and boomed out for the entire store to hear: "price check on lane thirteen, tampax, supersize.

seedy3

Ok for all those strugling with the English language, here is the reason why.

REASONS WHY THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS HARD TO LEARN

1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
2) The farm was used to produce produce.
3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.
6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.
8) A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.
9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
10) I did not object to the object.
11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
13) They were too close to the door to close it.
14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.
16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
18) After a number of injections my jaw got number.
19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?

Let's face it - English is a crazy language.

There is no egg in
Eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple.

English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France.
Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.

We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find
that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a
guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?

If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth?
One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese? One index, 2 indices?

Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend,
That you comb through annals of history but not a single annal?
If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught?

If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed
to an asylum for the verbally insane.

In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital?

Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?

Have noses that run and feet that smell?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise
man and a wise guy are opposites?

How can overlook and oversee be opposites, while quite a lot and
quite a few are alike?

How can the weather be hot as hell one day and cold as hell another?

Have you noticed that we talk about certain things only when they are
absent?

Have you ever seen a horseful carriage or a strapful gown?
Met a sung hero or experienced requited love?
Have you ever run into someone who was combobulated, gruntled, ruly
Or peccable?

And where are all those people who ARE spring chickens
or who would ACTUALLY hurt a fly?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your
house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by
filling it out and in which an alarm goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race (which, of course, isn't a race at all).

That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible,
but when the lights are out, they are invisible.
And why, when I wind up my watch, I start it,
but when I wind up this essay, I end it.

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All Scripture Inspired book/1975

by comment in

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i was just looking at this quote from another thread:.

"of what significance is this today?

it means that by the fall of 1963 mankind has dwelt upon this earth 5,988 years.

seedy3

Hmmmm TD

the article you quote makes an interesting statement, aside from the subject at hand.

Adam would realize this lonely condition very quickly, perhaps in just a few days or a few weeks,..............
The basic animal kinds could have been relatively quickly named, for when such basic kinds were taken into the ark in Noah’s day, it did not involve millions of beasts, but perhaps only a few hundred basic kinds..............

So now does that give rise that the WTS beleives that evoloution is part of Gods (jehovahs) purpose?

Hmmmmmm....... I wonder

seedy