@Finkelstein
What if Divine Sovereignty came from the Divine? I cannot disprove it (or prove it).
I can't help but "what if?"
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@Finkelstein
What if Divine Sovereignty came from the Divine? I cannot disprove it (or prove it).
I can't help but "what if?"
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@jp1692
I'm not basing my life on that. I think you are reading into that post what isn't there.
I can only reference my own experiences and being a JW was one of them.
All I'm saying is that my view of a loving God is one who accepts those who may not even believe in them.
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@jp1692
I meant to refer to the WTBTS as I felt about them back when we believed. Their "new light" version of God is more passable than some other versions.
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@Finkelstein
That video is definitely food for thought. I'm inclined to agree with his points. However I wonder if matters of divine sovereignty cannot be understood by human minds? I "what if" every side of the argument until I exhaust myself.
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@Ding
I do not believe that Christianity requires 100% certainty in my own heart, but since I what if everything, and I know some say you need to believe in Jesus as shown by a previous poster, I sometimes wonder what if they are right.
But your point about "doubting Thomas" is a great one, thank you.
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@a watcher
Let me ask you this,
What if I did all I could to believe in Jesus, followed his teachings, went to church, preached the Gospel, helped the downtrodden etc. but deep down inside my logic and critical thinking skills never made me sure beyond all doubt. Wouldn't that mean that I didn't truly believe? How could a God hold this against me?
Even mother Teresa doubted her faith. So '@a watcher' are you implying someone like mother Teresa won't be saved?
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
How unloving
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
One thing I think the JWs did right was their refinement of the sheep and the goats.
I remember there was an adjustment to our thinking to not label people sheep or goats because only God knew. By extension I remember discussions that there would likely be many in paradise who we would have never imagined would be there. In other words, God would choose many who perhaps rejected beleif (amongst other things) but had other redeemable qualities.
That is what I think a loving God would do.
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@GoneAwol
I believe I understand the point you are making.
I choose to not believe in those things due to lack of evidence.
On the flip side, I also cannot 100% disprove their existence, just like God.
However, I have this gut feeling of "there has to be"; I know it's only faith and is meaningless but I choose to hope. I can neither prove or disprove God.
do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
@GoneAwol
Many days I believe, I pray, but I would be lying to myself if I say I could prove God's existance as fact. There is no proof, just faith.