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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

To believers: what evidence outside of the Bible help you have faith that Jesus existed?

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Did Jesus pre exist? Yes or no?

by UnshackleTheChains in

when i first became a witness, i always found the teaching about jesus being the arch angel michael hard to swallow.

i did however believe that jesus pre existed as a master worker alongside god (the first of his creation).. but now everything is brought into question having watched anthony buzzard explain why jesus could not have pre existed as it is impossible to pre exist yourself.

also the fact that it all sounds contradictory to suggest, he was already alive millions of years before he was transferred to mary's womb to be born as a human - the son of man?.

unsure

No convincing evidence of Jesus outside of the Bible makes it hard for me to have faith in him.

I'll continue to pray to whatever is out there to give me faith if needed.

To believers, what evidence outside of the Bible help you have faith that Jesus existed?

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

I'd live my life the same regardless if there is a God or not

I already pretty much live by the 10 Commandments as an example. Most societies value these rules anyways, 10 Commandments or not. It's a good measuring stick.

There is a chance God is not love but most major religions describe God as such so here is to hoping.

If there is no God, my actions don't really change. If there is a God they don't either.

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

The more I think about it and the more I try to reason on it, the more it all just doesn't make sense. If you are a good person, you should be saved. It shouldn't be conditional on whether you beleive or not.

It's like not saving your neighbor from danger because they don't want to be your friend. That wouldn't be loving.

I still beleive there has to be something. It's a gut feeling based on nothing but faith, but if God is love, salvation shouldn't be conditional based on beleif.

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

@hooberus

I've found quite a few believers on here.

You're comment isn't fair.

Going to a Christian based site will get me answers from Christians.

Here, we have both.

Your beliefs should be able to be posted without worry and should be able to stand up to public scrutiny.

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

I don't understand the purpose of that last post

Is there something wrong with listening to both sides?

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

@jp1692

I'm not ignoring answers from non-Christians. Quite the contrary. I'm just interested in both sides.

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

Re-posting these thoughts/questions for believers in this thread. Interested to hear their response. Please read and respond to each point.

The issue is I want to believe. I pray for whatever is out there to reveal themselves to me.

However a "feeling" does not prove anything. An event that is pure coincidence that many would say is Divine does not prove anything. A vision, dream or illusion does not prove anything. These could be psychological tricks. I want that feeling that some have that they are truly convinced they have been saved. Even still, whats to stop that feeling from being a psychological trick? That is my problem with having to have 100% unquestionable faith. As others have said, God could easily use skywriting, or have one of each of his myriads of angels appear in front of every human, then there would be no doubt.

Even scholars debate the existence of Jesus outside the context of the Bible.

How am I supposed to ignore logical explanations and information and deny it and attribute it to the Divine?

To add:

How can you be so sure Christianity is the correct?

For those who have been saved, how do you know you were actually saved and the feeling of being saved, the vision, the dream, the incident etc. is not just pure coincidence or is not just a psychological trick?

We know gravity exists, because any human around the world can observe it and test it at any moment. To say gravity does not exist would be denying the undeniable. Gravity is gravity; it's not known by a different concept depending on where in the world you are born. There is really not much dispute. Gravity is truth, gravity is testable, gravity is fact.

If a certain religion is true, why is it not like gravity described above?

How do you know that every passage of the Bible has remained pure and unaltered?

As stated earlier, there are many who have not been exposed to Christianity. If believing in Jesus is the only way to be saved from Adamic sin, is it fair to those who were born into areas with other religions who teach that theirs is the true religion and not Christianity? Is it fair to those who have not heard of Christianity? Is it fair to those who have denied Christianity because they encountered it in a non favorable light? What if the preacher did more to turn people away then to draw them and they rejected Jesus?

If the answer is, "it takes faith", well faith is an "assured expectation". Is not an expectation a hope of something that has a chance of maybe not happening or being true? Expectation is defined as a "strong belief" but a belief is not fact.

Another wonderful user pointed out to me various examples in the Bible of people who doubted. They told me to approach God with whatever faith I may have, even if limited. This makes sense to me. I can see a loving God accepting any amount of faith.

To those who say I need to 100% believe if Jesus or I wont be saved from Adamic sin, how is this possible or fair with everything I've mentioned above especially from a God that is described as Loving and who knows our limitations?

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

The issue is I want to believe. I pray for whatever is out there to reveal themselves to me.

However a "feeling" does not prove anything. An event that is pure coincidence that many would say is Divine does not prove anything. A vision, dream or illusion does not prove anything. These could be psychological tricks. I want that feeling that some have that they are truly convinced they have been saved. Even still, whats to stop that feeling from being a psychological trick? That is my problem with having to have 100% unquestionable faith. As others have said, God could easily use skywriting, or have one of each of his myriads of angels appear in front of every human, then there would be no doubt.

Even scholars debate the existence of Jesus outside the context of the Bible.

How am I supposed to ignore logical explanations and information and deny it and attribute it to the Divine?

119

Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

unsure

@sparrowdown

I sure hope so. It's always the preachers who say you must believe to be saved that make me wonder if they are right and other views are not. It's also being an ex JW where your salvation was mostly conditional.