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  For Christians: What do you think about an Armagedon and the Afterlife

  by John Davis in

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  i don't mean for anyone to get into argument over this, i just want to hear what people believe.i hope that no one will mock or argue with someone else about their beliefs, i know that i won't in this topic.. i still believe in a christian god, not what jws believe, but believe that there has to be something after this life.

  i am not sure about how armageddon would go, would it be like how evangelicals believe with a rapture or timing or anything, though i still believe in a form of armageddon.

  i do think that all good people will go to heaven but i don't believe in a hell.

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  @James Jack

  I'm with you!
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  Verifiable proof of Jesus' existance outside the Bible

  by unsure in

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  thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..

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  @_Morpheus

  It's frustrating in the event that it is actually all true and we must believe even if the Bible is all there is.
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  Verifiable proof of Jesus' existance outside the Bible

  by unsure in

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  thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..

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  unsure

  So what I've gathered so far is that to believe in the Deity of Jesus, requires pure faith and speculation. However, to be saved from Adamic Sin and have a hope for eternal life, I have to believe in the Deity of Jesus.

  Hardly seems fair.

  Very depressing and frustrating.

  
  
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  Verifiable proof of Jesus' existance outside the Bible

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..

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  @Old Navy

  To rephrase, what is stopping Zeus from being the creator of this complexity and not Jesus?
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  Verifiable proof of Jesus' existance outside the Bible

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..

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  @Old Navy

  If you are attributing complexity to a creator, ok, but then what is stopping another religion from being the correct one and yours being wrong?
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  Verifiable proof of Jesus' existance outside the Bible

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..

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  unsure

  Thought I'd start a separate discussion on the subject.

  Those who know me know I'm struggling with faith; I want to believe, some days I do but it becomes difficult.

  Many believers say there is verifiable proof of Jesus' existence outside of the Bible.

  Please post this proof.
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  Did Jesus pre exist? Yes or no?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  when i first became a witness, i always found the teaching about jesus being the arch angel michael hard to swallow.

  i did however believe that jesus pre existed as a master worker alongside god (the first of his creation).. but now everything is brought into question having watched anthony buzzard explain why jesus could not have pre existed as it is impossible to pre exist yourself.

  also the fact that it all sounds contradictory to suggest, he was already alive millions of years before he was transferred to mary's womb to be born as a human - the son of man?.

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  @punkofnice

  Thank you for that post.

  Your acquaintance has it right.
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

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  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  unsure

  It does make it difficult to have 100% faith.

  At most I can muster 50% faith.

  I want to believe but there is so much confirming/debunking that needs to be done that it literally frustrates and depresses me.

  I will never have the time and resources and ability to try to confirm or deny each argument for Jesus' existence.
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  Did Jesus pre exist? Yes or no?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i first became a witness, i always found the teaching about jesus being the arch angel michael hard to swallow.

  i did however believe that jesus pre existed as a master worker alongside god (the first of his creation).. but now everything is brought into question having watched anthony buzzard explain why jesus could not have pre existed as it is impossible to pre exist yourself.

  also the fact that it all sounds contradictory to suggest, he was already alive millions of years before he was transferred to mary's womb to be born as a human - the son of man?.

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  @punkofnice

  Just spot read it.

  It does make it difficult to have 100% faith.

  At most I can muster 50% faith.

  I'm like you, I want to believe but there is so much confirming/debunking that needs to be done that it literally frustrates and depresses me.

  I will never have the time and resources and ability to try to confirm or deny each argument for Jesus' existence.
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  Jesus Christ was anti-family

  by deegee in

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  strong family ties & family values did not matter to jesus:.

  - a person must hate his or her family and themselves in order to be jesus’ disciple (matthew 10:37; luke 14:26).

  - jesus will give a big reward to those who forsake their family, abandon their home, leave their family behind for him.

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  unsure

  This is the kind of shit that makes it really hard to have faith.

  Unless it was all some sort of metaphor.