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  Star Trek: Enterprise: What did you think?

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  ok, i know that i'm not the only star trek geek out there.

  i know tons of dubs (ex dubs) that love star trek because it's one of the only interesting shows that they are allowed to watch.. anyway, did you watch the first episode tonight?

  i'm pretty sure with the one scene, that the dubs will be reproving some for masterbation tomorrow night.. oh and what's your favorite kingdumb song?

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  We don't know how first contact went with the Klingons since we don't know what the Klingon said to Archer.

  Who was the temporal guy giving instructions? Don't read on if you don't want a spoiler...

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  I have read that these are humans from the future from the parallel universe (or at least a parallel universe, not necessarily the "Mirror, Mirror" one) who are trying to mess with the past so that humanity gets to rule the galaxy in the future, and not be merely one of the players as the Federation. They want a more fascist-like human future and are trying to nudge things in that direction.
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  Donations my Ass

  by FrightMare in

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  i think we should all objurgate those who boast about donating to the sep 11th fund, red cross, or any other loser fund.. that dumb ass mayor giuliani is the worst thing that could happen to ny, he absolutely fettered the rescue work to a grinding halt.

  the hard working, almost indefatigable rescue workers could have accomplished something with the billions of pounds of rubble, if only that asshole epicene giuliani knew what he was doing, and was capable of coordinating and directing a massive rescue mission.. all the dollars you are pulling out of your pockets are now wasted because of that ass.

  there are no survivors left (because of that ass).

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  Do you have any reasons to back up your assertions? Just curious where this rant came from.
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  "The Racism of American Warmongering"

  by LDH in

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  friends,.

  this article was sent to us by one of my husband's best friends.

  mississippi had the guilty parties been white boys with .

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  I have been very impressed by the patient and controlled reaction by the Bush administration thus far

  Their reaction has scared me, to be frank. Oh sure, I'm glad they haven't lobbed some nukes as the A-rabs yet, as some yahoos wanted them to do. But what they have done is impressively scary: they have gotten the Congress, and all our allies, to give the President carte blanche to attack any one he wants to attack. We haven't even been told why we think it is bin Laden. Our allies haven't even been told this. It's all been done on a 'take our word on it' basis, and yet everyone has rolled over and said 'Go ahead with your war, even if it will be a secret one against a undertermined number of enemies in an undisclosed number of countries.' The media has gone right along with this.

  Great, we just gave supreme power to Bush & crew to do whatever the hell they want, no questions asked. I hope he shows restraint in the future, but it's a strange thing to see the world give that much power to anyone. We know very little of what they will do with this power, but if past history is any guide it won't all be good. Time will tell, but one thing I have learned from this is not that Bush has shown restraint. On the contrary, he has managed to grab an incredible amount of power in an instant. Now we're about to find out what he will do with that power.
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  United Nations Getting A Little On The Side...

  by messenger in

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  i find it interesting the new found love the wt appears to have for the un.

  in the two latest articles, july 22, awake and august 1, wt, they make reference to the good policies of the un and it's universal declaration of human rights.

  as my memory serves, the harlot represents babylon the great (aka, false religion, aka, all religion except jw's) that commits fornication with the wild beast (aka, un representing all kingdoms of the earth) does this bring on a "new light" adjustment in wt doctrine?

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  Just wondering, are the writers of "The Report" still "false prophets"?

  Well, if they, in 1994, predicted something (the WTS supporting the UN) that had already started happening, in 1991, in what way is this any kind of prophecy?
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  Paradise - I Think I'll Pass........

  by Black Man in

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  one thing that has always kinda ticked me off with the society depiction of paradise, is the completely bland, devoid of personality, stepford wives-ish look given to paradise pics in the publications over the years.

  peeps walkin' around smilin' for no reason, no attention given to a cultivation of technology, the arts, space exploration.

  there never seemed to be any point to paradise.

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  In fact, the JW concept of paradise bores me. I get bored on Saturday afternoons if I don't work; imagine an eternity on this world!! Once I've explored every nook and cranny a million times, then what? Explore it again?

  Indeed, I agree completely. I once posted on H2O a proof that the JW concept of paradise was deeply flawed, and it goes like your reasoning above. COMF disagreed with what I said, and I respect his view while thinking he is wrong. Here is basically what I said:

  Let us assume that in the New System we are allowed to explore the entire universe. Wow! Quadrilliions and quintillions of stars and planets to explore! Guess what? You'll still get sick of it. If someone made your favorite meal, say a steak just the way you like it, you'd enjoy it, right? What if you had it two days in a row? Still good, right? A week in a row? Um, yeah, OK. A month in a row? Well, a little variety would be nice. A year in a row? You'd probably want a break from steak.

  OK, now imagine eternity. Eternity is never-ending. So let's say you decide to spend one trillion years studying one subatomic element from one atom from one tiny speck of the universe. Get that? That's one trillion years just studying one part of one atom. I think you'd get the idea of that subatomic element after a while. In fact, think of it this way: an earthworm is made up of atoms, right? So you spend one trillion years studying one subatomic element from one atom from this one earthworm. Then you spend another trillion years studying the next subatomic element from that same atom in that same earthworm. Keep at it, one trillion years at a time, one subatomic element at a time, until you have covered the millions of atoms that make up that one earthworm.

  Now move on to the next earthworm, and the dirt under him, and the meadow that has the dirt, and the countryside that has the meadow, and the continent that has the countryside, and the planet that has the continent, and the solar system that has the planet, and the galaxy that has the solar system, and the galactic cluster that has the galaxy, and so on until you have one trillion years studying every subatomic element of every atom throughout the entire universe.

  Now go back and repeat that entire process two hundred quadrillion times.

  When you are done, you have spent one day of eternity. Repeat.

  Do you think after a while you would get to know everything there is to know about everything in the universe? Of course! Humanity has spent at most a few thousand years studying some things. I'm talking about spending a trillion, trillion, trillion years repeatedly studying everything imaginable on such an in-depth level there is nothing left to figure out. Then doing it again, and again, and again. We're not talking about getting tired of steak here. We're talking about knowing each atom of every steak in the universe.

  That's eternity. Actually, that's just the very beginning of eternity. Those JWs who long for eternity don't know what they are wishing for.
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  What's Your Political Affiliation?

  by Black Man in

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  as long as i can remember even though we didn't vote as jw's i've always philosophically vascillated between being either a closet democrat or independent.

  i still don't vote, but when things come up in the media, i find i do have some pretty straight-forward opinions on various items.

  what parties views in your country do you seem to vibe with and why?

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  Tina,

  I wasn't talking about those times when I voted. I know it is private then. What I was talking about, though perhaps I didn't make it clear, is when politicians vote in Congress. That's when their votes are known, and when they are punished if they don't go along party lines. That is what I find objectionable about political parties: they induce politicians to cease thinking and just pick sides.

  What an individual voter does is quite different. As you say, you can do whatever you want and no one knows. Affiliation within political parties is less harmful in this case, though it still tends to make people choose sides, not think through the issue.
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  The Conscientious Objector

  by GentlyFeral in

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  written during the second world war, i believe.. .

  the conscientious objector .

  the gates clanged and they walked you into jail .

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  yes....if we were all objectors we would
  all be speaking german right about now

  Well, no, in the dream world where we were all objectors, the Germans wouldn't have attacked, would they?
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  What's Your Political Affiliation?

  by Black Man in

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  as long as i can remember even though we didn't vote as jw's i've always philosophically vascillated between being either a closet democrat or independent.

  i still don't vote, but when things come up in the media, i find i do have some pretty straight-forward opinions on various items.

  what parties views in your country do you seem to vibe with and why?

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  Tina,

  All those group examples you gave would not require me to think along party lines. Do I have insurance or a driver's license? Yes, but I can choose to drive carefully or recklessly, or a little or a lot.

  If I declare myself a Republican, yet choose to vote my conscience, other members of my group will condemn me. That's the difference between groups.

  I mean, I am human, so that puts me in the group of humanity, but it's hardly the same thing as a poltical group which exists for a narrow purpose and within strict parameters.

  And no, this is not being apolitical. I do make choices in politics, but those choices sometimes align with what Democrats say, and sometimes with what Republicans say. Someone who is apolitical does not get involved, or chooses not to think about it at all.

  We could have a government of people who all strive to figure out the right course of action and then vote accordingly. Instead we have two parties, members of which follow the party lead to vote along predictable lines. This is counter-productive, and why I think the very concept of a formal political party is wrong and harmful. Just look how often Washington gets into political gridlock over childish party reasons and you see how much better off we would be if they voted with their minds instead.

  What a second! Given their minds, maybe I don't want them using them! :)
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  What's Your Political Affiliation?

  by Black Man in

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  as long as i can remember even though we didn't vote as jw's i've always philosophically vascillated between being either a closet democrat or independent.

  i still don't vote, but when things come up in the media, i find i do have some pretty straight-forward opinions on various items.

  what parties views in your country do you seem to vibe with and why?

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  I find the very concept of affiliation offensive and counter-productive. Vote and decide for yourself, not because others of your affiliation say which way you should vote. I dislike both Republicans and Democrats because instead of doing what's right, they choose sides. Every time there is a vote that falls along "party lines," I am reminded of JWs who change their "consciences" every time the WTS switches a teaching. Did the JWs think about those changes themselves? No, they were told what to think. Did the Democrats and Republicans think for themselves how to vote? No, they were told what to vote.

  I am not even an Independent, for that too is an affiliation.

  Sometimes I come up with conservative solutions, sometimes I come up with liberal solutions, sometimes I come up with solutions that can't be described either way. And really, in real life, how could it possibly be otherwise? If you see the world entirely in black-and-white shades, or entirely conservative or entirely liberal, how can that be accurate?

  The country would be better off without the Democrat and Republican parties (which did not exist at the country's founding). Instead of politicians choosing sides, they might actually get stuff done instead by thinking about the problems and coming up with thought-out solutions.

  But hey, why should anyone listen to me? People like choosing sides. They do it in religion, and they do it in politics. Us-versus-Them. Black-and-White.
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  Going back in?

  by tdogg in

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  i wonder exactly how many xjw's will be going back in due to the wtc.. to actually admit that is the reason to go back, wow.

  what a leap of faith-"oh look the great trib has started id better hurry off to meeting.

  " too late now anyway you bozos.

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  To be perfectly honest, as awful as the WTC attacks were, I fail to see why people are making such a big deal about the consequences. Was this attack unique? No, other countries have been dealing with terrorism for years, with much loss of life (if not as many as in NY). Was the loss of life here unique? Hardly, far more people have died in civil wars in Africa, battles in other countries, bombing raids in the Middle East, and so on.

  I think this is an example of American-centric thinking: it doesn't truly count until I see it with my own eyes in this country. So whereas all those other awful things I mentioned above didn't lead to Armageddon, as soon as something terrible happens in America that's it!

  exJWs who are returning to the WTS because of what happened here are displaying a lack of knowledge about history. Awful things have happened before. Even World Wars have happened before (even though this won't be a world war -- it's not even a war, but a criminal investigation and action). Stock market crashes have happened before (even though the market didn't crash this time). Ongoing terrorists acts have happened before. The whole world coming together to fight an enemy happened before (Gulf war). None of it led to Armageddon, so why should this event do so? Just because this time it happened in America?

  Shallow thinking.