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  Weeklong Elders School for POs This Year? Any info?

  by Seeker4 in

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  i just heard that my ex-father in law will be attending a weeklong elder's school at patterson for presiding overseers sometime this year.

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  I just heard that my ex-father in law will be attending a weeklong elder's school at Patterson for presiding overseers sometime this year.
  
  Has this come up yet, and does anyone know much about this?
  
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  Any theme for 2008 Conventions Yet? Why or why not?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw ex-wife mentioned this yesterday, as though it were significant.

  personally, i think it's another silly wts 'much ado about nothing' ploy.

  get people all excited that it's going to be something special, and the theme is just another banal idea that no one will remember much beyond the announcement.

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  I passed the info on. It hit with a big, dull thud.
  
  Guided by God's Spirit is a big disappointment when you're expecting The Great Tribulation Will Begin in October!
  
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  Any theme for 2008 Conventions Yet? Why or why not?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw ex-wife mentioned this yesterday, as though it were significant.

  personally, i think it's another silly wts 'much ado about nothing' ploy.

  get people all excited that it's going to be something special, and the theme is just another banal idea that no one will remember much beyond the announcement.

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  Thanks Open Mind.
  
  "Guided By God's Spirit." Hmmm. I can hardly contain the shiver of excitement.
  
  I rest my case. Can't wait to tell her.
  
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  Has anyone heard of the ICE program?

  by Lady Lee in

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  my daughter sent me this and it looks like a great idea.

  we all carry our mobile phones with names & numbers stored in its memory but nobody, other than ourselves, knows which of these numbers belong to our closest family or friends.

  if we were to be involved in an accident or were taken ill, the people attending us would have our mobile phone but wouldn't know who to call.

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  LadyLee,
  
  I just passed this on to my co-editor, who is also an EMT who writes a weekly article on these kind of topics.
  
  You've just given him his next week's theme. He's got a title already - "Put Your Cell Phone on ICE."
  
  Thanks for the heads up.
  
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  Any theme for 2008 Conventions Yet? Why or why not?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw ex-wife mentioned this yesterday, as though it were significant.

  personally, i think it's another silly wts 'much ado about nothing' ploy.

  get people all excited that it's going to be something special, and the theme is just another banal idea that no one will remember much beyond the announcement.

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  My JW ex-wife mentioned this yesterday, as though it were significant.
  
  Personally, I think it's another silly WTS 'much ado about nothing' ploy. Get people all excited that it's going to be something special, and the theme is just another banal idea that NO ONE will remember much beyond the announcement. "Display the Fruits of the Spirit," "Stay Faithful 'Til the End," "Our Deliverance is Near," that sort of non-event.
  
  What have you heard?
  
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  need a logical refutation for this JW argument about voting

  by chickpea in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of my nearest and dearest "sisters" for years always used this argument at the door to stress the evils of participating in the electoral process>>>>> if you vote for a candidate and then he/she does something in office that leads to deaths ( or whatever.... ) then the people who voted that individual into office share the blame/guilt/bloodguilt..... .

  how do i deconstruct that to prove that no one is responsible for a decision other than the decision maker ( or decider as in a new vernacular term) ?.

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  Use her reasoning against her.
  
  Tell her that by NOT voting, she is contributing to the election of the candidate she WOULDN'T have voted for, thus making her all the more reprehensible in that she did NOTHING to at least get the most just and qualified candidate elected.
  
  By NOT voting, she is in effect voting FOR the person she would have voted against.
  
  This whole argument is nonsensical, as so many here have noted. Better to have done something, than to do nothing and let charlatans and bunglers run the country!
  
  Either way, voting or not voting, you share equal responsibility for what happens.
  
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  Is using 10% of our brain just a myth?

  by truthseeker in

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  the society has said many times that we only use 10% of our brains.

  they use this assertion to claim that this is part of man's imperfection.. this article attempts to refute that claim.. .

  http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/columns/?article=bnbraincapacity&gt1=10789.

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  So 5go, does this: "Then why do we forget then. It's called mental capacity for a reason." mean that you believe that we get to a point where our brain is full, we've reached our mental capacity, and nothing more goes in or is remembered???

  We forget because we don't have total recall. Imagine what chaos there would be if we really remembered everything. Our minds would just be overrun with tons of useless crap. Forgetting has nothing to do with the capacity of our brain to think, learn and remember. The idea that our brains have a capacity, like filling a bucket with water til it is full and just runs over the edges, is absurd.

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  What is your favorite book of all time?

  by Abandoned in

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  2. entertainment

  i'm going to list three, one non-fiction, one fiction, and one series.. my all-time non-fiction favorite is: dojo wisdom for writers by jennifer lawler.. my all-time favorite fiction is: she's come undoneby wally lamb.

  my all-time favorite series is: the amber chronicles by roger zelazny.

  so, what are your favorites?.

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  I couldn't begin to list a favorite in any of these catagories. I'm looking at hundreds of books we have all through the house, and there are just too many I love to start picking favorites.

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  The bravest thing...

  by Mickey mouse in

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  ...i've been thinking and i reckon leaving "the truth" and risking losing your entire family has to be one of the bravest things to do.

  i am still considering whether my exit is possible but to all who have done it, well done!

  i noticed on another thread that others found once they left it inspired other family members to leave too.

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  Deciding to leave after over 30 years as a MS, elder and Pioneer was one of the bravest things I've ever done. My wife, daughter, in laws, my mom and all my best friends were all still active JWs.
  
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  JWs who were actually cool

  by Black Man in

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  2. friends

  we always talk about the crazy j-dub fundy types, but i knew some cool jws (co, do, bethelites, pio) during my time.

  this is kind of a "where are they now" post along with acknowledginig some jws who were cool and down-to-earth.

  as with most "cool" and good people in the borg, most of them are either not jws anymore (burned out) or are not "serving" in responsible positions (funny how that works, isn't it).

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  Had an old CO named Ray Hayes. After I left the JWs he came back and visited the congregation I'd been in. He wanted to get together, and we ended up talking for hours over coffee about why I no longer believed - turns out his doubts and concerns about the WTS were worse than mine!! Last I heard Ray was an elder in California.
  
  A former CO, Franks Hans. was a good guy. Going blind and was living in Texas the last I heard.
  
  Was Lynn Newton once in the New England area?
  
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