I've seen survivors use terms like "prostituted (woman/man/girl/boy)" or "prostitution survivor/victim". Nordic Model Now has a lot of good resources and interviews with survivors of the industry.
CalvinistEmily
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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CalvinistEmily
I think he's just parroting phrases used in discussions of ethics and morality and thinking it'll win him the argument. For example, in discussions of gay rights you often see "consenting adults" to describe relationships that are acceptable and exclude ones that aren't.
The difference is that's a good argument when it's about ordinary gay and lesbian couples with no power imbalance between them. It's not a good argument when it's about a punter and his victim.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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CalvinistEmily
Omg that's gold! Adding it to my playlist, it unironically bangs :D reminds me of one of Frank Klepacki's.
I did wonder if samples of his livestream would make a good track, maybe "mister kind of saintly Brandon" over a jungle beat, or "WHOT?!" as a sample.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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CalvinistEmily
He sings like one of those deep voiced elders at the Kingdom Hall who felt they should take the lead in getting everyone to sing louder. His "We Are The Slave" song he composed was pitiful (on his channel, so wont post here).
He sounded like quite a high tenor in his Christmas song. I'm an alto and I can sing deeper than him. It's reedy too, no timbre to it.
I see in the We Are The Slave song it says "performed by David Evans" - is that a relative of his? His dad's called Jonathan so presumably it's another of the Evans clan?
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CalvinistEmily
I figured that's why he always got Arthur Weber to do the singing. That, and he seemed to like making his co-hosts do stupid things on the show for no reason.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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CalvinistEmily
And I remember his bitchy attitude towards Christmas. Can you imagine "celebrating" with a parent who can barely contain his boredom and distaste for what should be a happy family holiday?
Unfortunately, thanks to the quotes from his book posted here, I can imagine Lloyd "celebrating" Christmas...
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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CalvinistEmily
I think people are misreading cost. I've seen $8 allocated on a sheet here in Europe as 8,000.
That's possible. In continental Europe they tend to use commas instead of full stops/periods to indicate decimal points. Can be confusing for us Brits, Irish and non-Europeans.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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CalvinistEmily
Well, he is used to paying by the hour...
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CalvinistEmily
"the new normal" WTF is he using essentially communist propaganda for?
Nah, he's a typical neoliberal. I wish he were a communist, I'm an ML myself and we have much more rigorous analysis of and response to exploitation and inequality than just virtue signalling.
For example in China, using prostitutes carries the death penalty.
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CalvinistEmily
I am starting to think Lloyd's lawyers realize they have a sucker for a client and they are going to bill the crap out of him. I hope they bleed his bank account dry.
Yeah, every kuna he gives to Novoselic is one he can't give to a pimp. I just hope Djiana's got a "fuck you fund" for herself and the kids and he doesn't clean her out too.