CalvinistEmily

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Spitting? I really didn't want to know about any more of his sex life.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  He keeps crying racism when he's a white wealthy Englishman sexually abusing women in poor or colonial countries. We're the real racists for talking about it. It's like if Lt. Pinkerton had a Twitter account and pretended to be progressive.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  He was so protective of the books he wrote when getting them translated wasn't he, which gives me an idea, it would really wind him up if chapter by chapter they appeared online somewhere especially the new one he claims he's writing

  His Kiwi Farms thread has them both as PDFs attached to the first post. The site's been down recently but it's back up again, if a little slow. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/james-lloyd-evans-lloyd-evans-john-cedars-the-reluctant-apostate-jwwatch-cedarsjwsurvey.113875/
  
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  Watchtower's moral standards are abhorrent, there's many examples of that, but that doesn't mean people should have no moral standards. In general, "treat others as you would want to be treated" is a good one. There doesn't even need to be any theological component for that, Richard Dawkins and other biologists have written about how that sense of altruism and collective responsibility evolved in social animals (like us!) to help with the group's cohesion and survival - if everyone is only out for themselves with no regard for others' wellbeing, then the whole troop/herd/flock/colony/society collapses and they all die out, but if they work together, they all thrive.

  Nobody wants to be sex trafficked and abused. So it's wrong to use prostitutes by that moral standard.

  Lots of people's own personal moral standards would say that it's okay to do a lesser wrong for the greater good, like stealing to feed the poor or killing to defend yourself or someone else, and yeah, there's a lot of debate to be had there. But what possible justification could there be for sexual abuse? Nothing's gained from it that you can't get from just having a wank, and it does so much damage to the victim and keeps the whole trafficking industry going.
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  NonCoinCollector makes a good point, other people will see the conversation and have a look for themselves, if they weren't previously aware. Debates aren't just to convince the interlocutor, but to convince the audience, and to raise awareness in them.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Emily consistently dishes out the best burns in this topic.

  You're too generous, my burns are nowhere near as severe as the burns Lloyd gets when he pees...
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  Of all the diseases he should be worried about catching...
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  Seems like a spam bot. Did he actually accept her request, ie is she a friend or just a follower?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Wow, Taylor's pinned tweet at the moment is some of the worst homophobia I've seen outside religious groups. Some male (or AMAB if Taylor prefers) "on my way to get some lesbians" wants respect for "the LGBTQ community"? Nah mate, start by respecting lesbians' homosexuality and then we can talk.

  edit: sorry to derail again, back to Lloyd. He's apparently sharing comments from children on his channel, which is worrying in itself. At least it's anonymous.
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  I do kind of feel bad for the guy, "cult hopping" is a very common phenomenon. It's easy to go from making everyone call you "brother" to making everyone call you "she/her/they" based on a belief system, and from "putting on the new personality" to "identifying as your 'authentic self' in the wrong body". It could be a stepping stone out of WT, but it's got its own problems. Steven Hassan is a bit of a melt but his BITE model is still a decent checklist, and this poor guy's falling into a lot of the same ones, from JWs to gender theory.