Posts by Chook

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New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

by Danni Jackson in

i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

Chook

Welcome Danni

if that's your real Christian name and surname it is highly likely that you will be TOLD in no uncertain terms to withdraw from this forum from your elders, gossip in JW ranks is very high. If you ever were to become an advocate of this forum it's possible to be dealt with judicially. On this forum you will receive genuine assistance in understanding JW doctrine ,never stop searching and question everything told by the organisation. The organisation has a habit of denying its history. We sincerely wish you well on your search.Regarding marking its one of those grey area doctrines where sometimes the person marked is unaware they are even marked. The true church will be identified by love and charitable works , if your church provides little for the disadvantaged or poor there's a chance it's not the truth.

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Quick question to Jehovah Witnesses.

by SomeRusskiBeliever in

do jehovah witnesses believe jesus christ is lord?

looked it up in nwt "therefore, let all the house of israel know for a certainty that god made him both lord and christ".

" - acts 2:36a.

Chook

Russki you have just opened a hornets nest, they believe he is lord but is only a mediator for about 10000 special loonies who will soon help destroy all mankind that aren't in agreement with the guys shown above. Theses guys above believe Jesus directs their ever changing doctrine, these guys above teach that people who don't get their monthly quota for book selling activities will be destroyed by the lord himself.

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Petty Rules

by HereIgo in

did your congregation have any petty man made rules?

i remember the elders in my cong didn't like if a single brother and single sister walked in the parking lot together after the meeting ended, to their car.

you couldn't hold the mic or give a talk without a coat (that might be a universal jw rule).

Chook

The whole JW church is FULL of petty rules , I love it when I hear them claim to be Christian, Jesus the man of two rules love God love neighbor, yet I'm sure JWs exceed the Israelites on the rules count. Israel had rules on whole blood , JWs have rules on fractions ,on components no one can pronounce let alone know what they do. Break any JW rule with a " brazen" attitude and your before the panel of executioners, brazen is their latest interpretative word. A constant changing rule procedure such as no tablets on platform,then God changed his mind, tablets now not only allowed but encouraged so as save money for the Brooklyn slush fund. Imagine the pressure on the bethel barber ,nor enough snipping ,to much snipping poor bastard.

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Blood is thicker than water??

by HereIgo in

i remember a co saying from the platform, " people often say blood is thicker than water.

well not in jehovah's organization" i don't know about anyone else, but it sure rubbed me the wrong way and one of the million reasons why i left!.

Chook

What elder would have the balls to bring Geoffrey Jackson before a JC for denying the faith during ARC. It's ALWAYS about connections and especially blood connections. What would the average CO know about children, a big nothing, then again they know nothing about heating bills ,gas prices ,food cost , phone bills nothing. So WT puts in charge of all Congs men who are that out of touch that they wouldn't and can't understand daily difficulties. Then they tell cong God has sent these men around to encourage, it's equivalent to trying to get a teenager to have empathy for someone with a tooth ache.

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I’m feeling a bit down and troubled

by Tallon in

what is getting me down are the difficult and troubling experiences posted by some of the forum users.

in a number of cases i cannot believe the injustice inflicted on the person.

how, forgive the wording, in god’s name can this be happening?

Chook

Only good hearted people feel sad at injustices, just maybe the cults damage will end. But to hear of families torn by religious dogma, good people dying because of misapplication of scripture . Look at pale emporer can't even drop his child off without the evils of Brooklyn showing there teeth. WT has one big sad legacy , just today sister dies no blood then we hear that a young girl in Utah had to relive her rape ordeal ,it just goes on and on. Tallon ,karma is what Brooklyn will receive . I would like to see GB jailed for perjury especially for their uncaring spirit and of course for lying to authorities.

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Utah Jehovah’s Witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.

utah jehovah’s witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says.

a woman is suing a jehovah's witnesses church in weber county after, she says, one of its instructors repeatedly raped her when she was a minor and the organization's leadership forced her to listen to an audio recording of one of the assaults.. the woman filed the lawsuit wednesday in 2nd district court, accusing the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses church in roy — as well as naming the alleged perpetrator, several church leaders and the watchtower bible and tract society (the religion's headquarters located in new york) — of knowingly allowing the "unfit" instructor to rise to a position of authority without warning members of his "dangerous propensities" and past sexual transgressions.. read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.

Chook

I hope they have to sell ten halls to give this poor girl a cheque. Absolute evil ,another lamb fed to the wolves.

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Another "good" elder might be getting the axe....

by humblepotato in

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friends

so our congregation is full of hardliner elders, 3 of them, who are not gentle, kind or loving.. people have either moved away or quit trying because one elder inparticular was going to drive them crazy with all his rules and nit picking and being righteous over much.

(and he is pissed that he hasn't been accepted to the school.

hmmm, i wonder why!).

Chook

Hopefully if this elder is genuinely good he might see through the evil practice of disfellowshipping and get out of this cult with his daughter. This subject makes me so angry, I've been in Congs where dickhead elders emotionally bash the flock , I seen one cong go from 70 publishers to 8 because of these Pharisees. In this particular cong the elder running the show was delusional ,I remember one night in the winter inside the hall when the meeting started it was 8 degrees Celsius,so I approach this idiot and ask is there good reason why we are cold or do you need more money for gas. This is exactly what his reply was " the society is worried about the green house affect". I was thinking how can I reason with such an idiot,he drove his car to meeting which affects the green house. They were down to 2 elder so he had total control, he even told me I was grieving gods Holy Spirit and I asked if my wife's in agreement with me does that mean she is grieving to and he said yes. It makes me angry because I took this religion serious and sold my nice house to to get away from this dickhead.

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To beard or not to beard...

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

...that is the question our circuit overseer asked the elders.

to elaborate, the agenda for the co meeting with the elders had an item about the "beard paragraph" (sept watchtower p21 para 17) which i assumed would be an instruction to not use any with beards on the platform.

instead he genuinely wanted to know if we would recommend a brother if he had a beard but everything else was ok. he kept pressing until he got 100% saying yes - a beard isn't a problem.

Chook

It's not rocket science to realise that all the supposed good guys in the bible had beards and the bad guys were clean shaven. With my wisdom they might want my take on other issues next Wednesday .

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Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?

by Darkknight757 in

so this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.

we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.

an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!

Chook

Just tell the self righteous bastards to pray for you.

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Struggling a bit, guess it's to be expected...........

by dubstepped in

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friends

throughout this process since my wife and i disassociated just over a year ago i've been pretty positive.

focusing on my new life, new friends, having fun, and living a good life.

it's been great.

Chook

Hang in there dubstepped, the JW childhood is child abuse in its self. Take your wife and yourself and shoot a real gun, do the MANY things that the religion condemned by going beyond what's written. May your life be blessed from this time on, there's no boogeyman behind every corner as JWs teach.