We have all we need now. The refugees. We've made our own place. It's small, but it feels like home. Its only been a few weeks and its thriving.
MacSwan
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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members
by Designer Stubble inmessage from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members
by Designer Stubble inmessage from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
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MacSwan
Um says Tallullah who was given her own "badass" badge by the site owner. No special treatment there, right? Whatever. Obviously you are still going to toe the line.
The "thanks" abuse thing was long after the conversation I had with Rifter. So not even connected. Tar me with the one and same brush just shows how unwilling you are to look beyond your viewpoint once you have made up your mind. I didn't boost my own thanks count - I thanked someone else - all legitimately, nor did I ask them to do in return. If anything, I exposed a foible of the site. It all went a bit wrong and I apologised for it. I messed up. I'm human. Go figure. Doesn't mean I can't or don't have an opinion.
Thankfully I'm done with all this crap. People who know me, really know me and value me. That's what counts. It seems once certain people make their minds up, thats it. It's like being "marked".
I had fun doing well in the 2016 rap battle with Fugue. And the wins on Mafia.
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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members
by Designer Stubble inmessage from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
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MacSwan
I guess there are two or three camps.
1. Those that hero worship anybody that makes a name for themselves doing anything ex-jw that puts them in the spotlight. This camp will stick by their heroes no matter what. They seem to be blinded easily by their awe and could just as easily still be following the governing body. In fact, they have just replaced one set of leaders with another. Of course, they help and get helped, but damn anybody that does not toe the party line.
2. Those that are willing to question things, even if it puts a big fat target on their backs. They participate in the ex-jw community, either by helping others or getting the help they need. They realise that we don't live in a black and white world and that people have ups and downs and are willing to forgive transgressions.
Yes, any site will have trolls, upstarts, people who cause problems. Jeez, that's a microcosm of life. It's also the view of the controlling mindset at the time - doesn't mean the trolls, upstarts, shit stirrers are always actually that.
Don't want to deal with it? Pull the frikken plug. Thing is, don't frikken claim you are carrying the weight of the frikken world on your shoulders when you knowingly signed up for it. Also, don't build something up, which is a movement, and is bigger than you and than say "I'm the boss, I can do what I want, and I'm sick of this shizzle, so I'm going to pull the plug, because I'm the only one who can run this thing". Really?
I peered behind the curtain at JWR. What did I see? Well, having a chat with Rifter in JWR chat a couple of years back, I voiced why I was unhappy about something and listed a bunch a people that supported me. What was his response? "Don't come on to MY site and try and turn MY members against me". I wasn't talking behind his back, I was talking directly to him. I wasn't organising a revolution. I wasn't trying to turn things upside down. I was merely voicing why I was unhappy about something directly to him. The response floored me. It was like a cornered animal. Yes, he ran the site. But surely the site had become bigger than him? After all, he inherited it. Why couldn't he just hand the keys on to someone else. Pay it forward?
I knew then, that it is dangerous for any movement to have a single figurehead as the status quo of that movement could be compromised at their whim. It needs to be owned and run by several people with a plan for passing on the baton. A person should never be bigger than the movement.
I don't think the site had run it's course. Why? As long as there are people who leave JW.org there will be a place for something like that. What had run it's course were the current custodians. They should have been enlightened enough to pass on the baton, instead of thinking only they could do what they had done.