Another thing to note is yes there seems to be some evidence that the god Yahweh may have changed from El to another god from the desert south of Judah but it’s also let’s not forget that the original name for the city of Jerusalem is related to another Canaanite deity and the Solomon’s temple if built has the same construction style as those built in Egypt’s and even one in northern Syria. Even descriptions of the Ark of the covenant is similar to the Egyptian Bark of Ammon.
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A book on the pronunciation of God's Name
by Doug Mason ini am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.
i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.
i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .
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A book on the pronunciation of God's Name
by Doug Mason ini am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.
i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.
i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .
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Crazyguy2
The earliest Hebrew spelling of gods name was El. This was thought only to be a title until they found the city of Ugarit in 1929 where they discovered the head god of the pantheon of Canaanites named El. Writing there described this god in many of the same way Jehovah is described in the Bible. The word Adonai is also more common in the Bible for gods name then people think. YHWH could mean anything and is not a shortening of gods name in my opinion, in fact some believe this is a title for several gods in the pantheon.
I think the Jews were heavily influenced by their neighbors and not all the Jews worshiped the same god. There’s proof they worshiped Baal, ashurah, RA, Iao, Marduk, Helios just to name a few.
Also many of the Bible texts may not have been speaking about the same god but at a later date were edited to make seam as though it was.
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Few observations made at the RC
by Crazyguy2 inonce again the mention of jesus was or has been very little this truly is an old testament cult with some sprinkles of pauline writings to help them in their doctrines.
i also noticed how mixed up the congregations are at this and probably other rcs.
some of the local congregations are here near the rcs site but also ones almost 100 miles away as well , yet other local congregations are not scheduled at this time.
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Once again the mention of Jesus was or has been very little this truly is an Old Testament cult with some sprinkles of Pauline writings to help them in their doctrines. I also noticed how mixed up the congregations are at this and probably other RCs. Some of the local congregations are here near the RCs site but also ones almost 100 miles away as well , yet other local congregations are not scheduled at this time.
The amount of attendants is just plain stupidly overwhelming along with their Paranoia, staring at the crowd during prayer as one of example. I also notice brothers counting cars. This is their own private assembly hall but I wonder if their going to start charging for parking in the future.
The constant talks about loving and how to treat others but only in the congregations is really getting old. They obviously don’t care about anyone outside the cult.
I must say for from a person that doesn’t believe in any thing biblical the baptism talk is an improvement from those in the past, didn’t catch if the new questions were used or not. Anyway just a few more hours of this BS and I’ll be done. About 1200 hundred in attendance and about a dozen baptized. This place won’t hold more the 1500 tops so not massively packed but again holiday weekend I too wish I wasn’t here.
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Is this really what happens?
by Theonlyoneleft inhello guys,.
long time no see.
the other day i went out with my sister.
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Not normal but then again a lot of jws are not. He obviously has issues.
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I have worked at Chelmsford
by Val2020 ini have worked at chelmsford .
everybody seems so happy, but i couldn’t help wondering why all these volunteers give up their time and money, working for free for the future bethelites to live in such luxury .
all all the volunteers working there now will be kicked out on the street next year, with the lucky few laughing at the poor suckers who irked for free making this new bethel so amazing .
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I just don’t see why they need such a place, they can run the whole religion and even make videos in just a small office building with only a hand full of rooms.
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Evolution or Creation Poll
by Vanderhoven7 inevolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..
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I think the theory is the best we have on how life developed but two things I have to question, one how did life start? And 2 I listen to some math scientists etc and they stated that jumping from one type of species like reptile to mammal is mathematically all but impossible. So im sure on that one either?
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What Is Trump Doing with China now and his supporters that smell like a Walmart?
by RubaDub inisn't trump shooting himself in the foot when he is on the verge of (or already in) a trade war with china?
isn't walmart like 95% chinese stuff?.
won't there be a backlash when many of his supporters that want to upgrade to indoor plumbing see how much it costs with all the tariffs?
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Honestly if America is truly going to be great again it needs tariffs and also to crack down on illegal immigration. When the US was it’s strongest financially it had tariffs and low unemployment and because of this we had good paying jobs.
You just can’t let big business ship the jobs overseas and expect the country not to suffer. Yeah people will argue that stuff is now cheaper but really is it worth it? Most people live pay check to pay check and have to use credit to buy most items that cost more then a couple hundred bucks and the items they buy are crap too.
Im not sure if trump is doing it the right way and I’m no trump supporter but China keeps devaluing their dollar and making back room deals with other countries to cut out the useless US currency so Trump has to respond.
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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Like I said in my post the 4 million number is just my opinion but I base it on observation. It pretty common that cults inflate their numbers. But just look at the year books the only real thing we have to go on. Every year they show publishers and now just count the peek number which we know is bullshit. Also the Baptisted number looks as though it’s added to the publisher number the year they get baptized but the newly baptized one has already been counted as a publisher.
Then consider how many leave, 60 to 70 % of the young ones leave many never even getting baptized. That’s what happen in my hall with my peers and again with my sisters group 15 years younger. So the numbers are smoke and mirrors , more proof is the 3000 + halls their selling off more proof they don’t have the numbers.
So with that said that’s how I come up with the roughly 4 million mark. Just remember we can’t trust watchtower on their biblical teachings and we know they lie about what’s scholars have said also lie about other things so why would we not think their lying about their membership numbers ?!
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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Their running scared they know they can loose it all in child abuse lawsuits so their going to sell sell and sell some more. They may not be Going anywhere anytime soon but their getting smaller and smaller. They don’t have the numbers they claim and their preaching work is about dead. I mean the cart work is a joke and the door to door is really not working either. After all those that came in in the run up to 75 die off and then their kids which are in their 50-60s there won’t be many left.
Lets not forget that most the kids that grew up in it from the 70s on have left. I’m in my 50s and almost everyone in my age group left my hall. My sister is 15 years younger then me and again almost everyone in her age group also left. You just can’t have that bad of a retention rate for your children and be growing like they say.
Theres less then 4 million baptized jws world wide and their getting smaller by the minute imo, and even older ones are leaving now. Me two of my friends their brothers and sisters other friends they know that are about the same age. The retention rate for the cult is bad very bad and that’s a good thing. And for ever 10 adults still in the cult 3 or so are checked out mentally.
So yes we can say the cult is not going anywhere but has anyone noticed the storm that’s forming out there. The shits about to hit the fan and they may wish they weren’t around when it’s all over.
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Zalkin Law Firm flooded with calls from ex-JWs
by Roger Kirkpatrick inyesterday, i posted a question for a friend in texas as to whom he should contact to report sexual abuse from the 1960s by a jw pioneer/elder who is now deceased.
(incidentally, there are plenty of people who are still alive and in the organization who were very aware of the circumstances and who can be summoned to give testimony regarding these accusations.
) so, my friend called the zalkin law firm.
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It sucks that victims of abuse is how the cult will go down but it’s also good that this will greatly increase the demise of the cult. Sure the ones in will mostly stay do to their persecution complex but many will leave and the public will definitely know what a fu”k up cult the JWs are. This will be the greatest news around the world. Jws are a pedophile paradise this is what the public will know and what they will remember!