Posts by Crazyguy2

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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.

by Tameria2001 in

i am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.

my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.

there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.

Crazyguy2

It’s a combination of Old Sumerian stories. Someone took elements of several different stories and put them together to make the Adam and Eve story. In the original stories a god named Enki created man with the help of a female god and the sacrifice of another god for his blood. The idea of taking a rib to create Eve is from another story about Enki again and another female goddess healing him (can’t remember the details) but do to a mistranslation the mentioning of a Rib is in that story.

Enki had a garden and a man who tended to this garden named Adamu. It’s was also in another story where Adamu was called to the sky gods and then offered immortality if he would eat of the food provided but Enki told him it was a trick so Adamu didn’t eat and therefore didn’t gain immortality. Enki is also the original god that warned man about a coming flood and to save yourself a and to build a boat, save living things.

Yes the alien connection is very tiresome.

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Yesterday's wt: No wonder jws don't get any results from their ministry

by nowwhat? in

all about teaching the bible and about god.

what about preaching the gospel of jesus?

there's only about a dozen scriptures that say christians are to bear witness about the christ that they ignore.

Crazyguy2

The jws wanted to be different and only preach the father, they ignore the son for the most part don’t want to accidentally get any ideas of a trinity is why I’ve been told. But the real reason could be much more brazen.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Came to My Neighborhood

by Juan Viejo2 in

for nearly two years i have not seen any jehovah's witnesses going door to door in my neighborhood.

that was not the case when my wife and i first moved here (north central oregon).

in fact, our neighborhood was visited at least once every 4 to 5 months - even in the coldest winter months.

Crazyguy2

I just found out a kH near the one I attended when growing up has been sold. This truly is a dying cult. Generation after generation of young ones leaving by as much as 70% doesn’t work out so well if you want to grow. It was a big hit in the head finding out about this hall being sold. I knew about ones in other areas mostly rural being sold but this one was right in a major Seattle neighborhood.

Its really good news that this cult is going down. Yes not over night but ever little closer , sale or person quitting is a domino. I was just thinking about my kids which are in their teens trying to get married in a few years. With so many people gone or quitting they may really find it hard to find a mate and if they marry a worldly person then there’s a chance they will fall away so more gone.

I know of one young sister in my hall that has gone this route and is now out. Each one of these different events or situations become another dominos and there all being turned over to crush the cult. There’s no way there’s 8.5 million jws in this world , most likely about half that and it’s getting smaller and smaller by the minute.

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ANOTHER DEAD in ITALY because of REFUSING BLOOD

by Eliseo in

http://www.paesenews.it/?p=172570.

Crazyguy2

Especially when they can get Hemopure (cows blood ) and the GB are ok with it!

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The serpent in the Garden can’t be secretly Satan

by Doug Mason in

we know that the serpent in the garden can’t be secretly satan, because the first time satan is mentioned by name is in a story chronologically after this one, and in that, he is said to be walking.

remember that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly all the rest of his days, but in the book of job, satan is still walking around and chatting with god as if they’d never had a falling out.

this is when god had to ask satan where he’s been, because his infallible omniscience obviously didn’t know.. so if he had to ask that of satan, who is later described as the lord of lies, then why would god believe him?

Crazyguy2

In the original stories from Mesopotamia Enki was the god of wisdom and cunning he was also the god of the earth and water. He was also described as being a serpent. Some scholars and archeologists believe he was the serpent in the garden of eden story. Other believe he may have been the god testing Adam and another lesser god also described as a serpent is who talked to Eve.

In stories about Enki he did have a garden and he also had a man named Adamu which was the care taker of the garden.

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Did Russell come up with the no hell fire and no Trinity doctrine or did steal that belief from another religion as well?

by nowwhat? in

just wondering hate to give the devil his due.

Crazyguy2

Personally I think he pretty much stole everything. He wanted to be different and so I think he went for different fringe Christian ideas and then took the ones he liked and rolled with it.

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Merger aftermath

by Rattigan350 in

a couple of months ago, i reported on my congregation being disolved and merged with another.. on sept 1, cong b merged with cong a using the same hall, thereafter using cong a's meeting times.

also nearby cong c moved into the hall using cong b's meeting times and cong c's kh is being put up for sale.. i've since been to both sunday meetings and both midweek meetings.

at all, the parking lot is totally full, cars have to park around the corner and on the street.

Crazyguy2

Their falling on hard times as they merge back into the very tiny cult that they once were. A hall near where I grew up has been sold. Used to be two congregations meeting there and now who knows where their going. 30 plus minutes away to the nearest hall. They truly are closing down slowly but they are.

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District convention to be held in assembly hall instead of stadium

by NikL in

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friends

last night they announced that this summers district convention will be held at an assembly hall.. this is the first time i've seen this happen.

there are a couple of congregations in the same hall here and they aren't going to the same ones.

they are having multiple dates.. the hall they are going to use can only hold 1500 people max.. just wondering if maybe they just couldnt get anything bigger this year or if the falling numbers are playing a part in this decision.

Crazyguy2

Save money , probably make more in the future because they will probably start telling everyone there’s a deficit like they do at the circuit assemblies and like what was mentioned above more and more venues will not allow the jws to just show up and get it all for free or next to nothing like they have in the past.

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Secondary fulfilment to prophecy?

by Doug Mason in

in its use of the prophecy contained in nebuchadnezzar's dream (daniel 4), the wts applies a "greater fulfilment" beyond its initial application.. while they complain about the wts's action, at the same time these people make their own secondary applications to prophecies, such as with micah 5:2. these people also find "greater" meaning to historical statements, such as at isaiah 9:6 and at isaiah 53.. such passages had their local meaning yet people are prepared to find their "greater application" which suits their ends, just as the wts does.

it is not an excuse to say that the nt writers indulged themselves in the practice.. i am not saying that i agree with the practice; i am simply seeking consistency and integrity.. doug.

Crazyguy2

Often times scriptures sites as having a greater fulfillment or is a prophecy about something to occur in the future is actual not that at all. Here is a couple of example I think it Isaiah 53 that’s sited to be about a coming messiah Jesus yet when one reads the surrounding scriptures and chapters it’s really taking about Cyrus.

Mathew chapter 1:22 is also said the be a prophecy about the one to be called Emanuel and born of a virgin and again is to be Jesus Yet that’s not so. If you turn back to chapter 7:14 of Isaiah you’ll see the prophecy but again read the whole chapter and it’s not talking about a coming Jesus at all.

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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow

by Corney in

the montana case enters the home stretch.

the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).

an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).

Crazyguy2

Kc323 it’s not about protecting a third party it about reporting. The fact is if someone knows a person is abusing a child and does not report that person is a scum bag and should be held accountable period, clergy or not!