Posts by Crazyguy2

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Do You Think The Bible Teaches A Trinity As Religions Teach?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i’m not asking whether you believe in the bible.

i just want your opinion as to whether you think the bible teaches it.

i don’t, for what it’s worth..

Crazyguy2

What most people don’t realize is the New Testament books were written to push a sects ideas and then later books were written to destroy that idea etc.. One example is their was a sect that believed the Christ was a Seperate deity to Jesus the man and at his baptism this Christ entered into his body ie the Dove. Then when Jesus died the Christ left him ie” why have you forsaken me?!” 1john was later written to refute this idea.

The trinity was much the same, different ideas to the nature of Jesus and finally ended up with some what of a trinity by 325 and then refined more after.

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Is JW.Org the true religion?

by Maria Nieves in

jw.org states that they are the true religion.

i was told that it is written in the bible that jw.org is the true religion.

the following is the "alleged" evidence that was presented to me:.

Crazyguy2

Well first off if it were that simple don’t you think Satan would make sure and start a religion after gods name. Secondly, in reality if you read the whole chapter he is referring to Israel as his people. Israel is the name of the people that are of his name because El is the original name of thier god. Jehovah is a made up name of god of the Bible by a Catholic monk. So how can one argue their a people of his name when the name is totally wrong.

Religion opium of the ignorant.

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Meaning of Luke 9:49,50

by truthlover123 in

these two verses indicate that "others" were preaching in jesus' name and when the apostles reported it to him, he said "let him alone for he who is with us is not against us".... since the wtbts states they are the only way to salvation, what does this scripture mean?

others have the right to salvation as well - straight from jesus' mouth- as long as they preach ( in the verse it says expel demons as well) using jesus name?

Crazyguy2

There is also a scripture in one of the writings attributed to Paul where he says I don’t preach where Christ has already been preached or something to that effect. Bottom line is if you believe in the Bible and it’s writings then it’s clear to anyone who actually reads it that the NT was all about the worship and belief in Jesus Christ and all those who believe in him would be saved.

Knowwhere does it say that only a certain groups of Christ’s followers or believers would be saved and all other Christians killed. John chapter 3 all who believe have everlasting life !!!

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Giving fake address to elder

by Addison0998 in

so i got married a few weeks ago, living a great life now with my husband, he was definitely the perfect guy for me :) but anyways, we are going to work on slowly fading, going to meetings once a week or every two weeks, and then in a few months move to a hall where nobody knows our families and the elders hardly know each other, and fade out a lot more.

but an elder asked for our address, which we didn’t feel comfortable giving him, because we don’t want any unexpected visits to “shepard” us, when we miss a few meetings, because they already text us when we miss 2 meetings in a row, which we had just gotten back from our honeymoon 🙄 so we “accidentally” gave him the wrong apartment number.

so if they ever come pokin around they will be lost, and if they call or text us we will just have an excuse for not replying.

Crazyguy2

One thing that can work for you is your newlyweds. If they do find you and ask why your not at meetings as much just say “well we’re newlyweds and we’re just really enjoying each other if you know what I mean” . They’ll usually leave you alone for awhile.

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Need Help - How do I refute this???

by HappyBlessedFree in

so i was talking with my husband about all the things the organization is doing ie.

hiding pedophiles, lying about what 1914 was etc.

so his response was that the nation of israel had times when they weren’t doing the right thing, but it was still gods chosen organization.. another topic we were talking about was disfellowshipping.

Crazyguy2

Even if a man was thrown out of the congregation for sleeping with his step mother no where does it say if he stopped and repented would he still need to be shunned and punished for a year or more.

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Helping your Spouse wake up

by HappyBlessedFree in

has anyone had success in helping your spouse to wake up?

i’m thinking of showing my husband jwfacts.

he is starting to do his own research using wikipedia and google.

Crazyguy2

Have him turn over to Mathew chapter 1: verse 22 I believe where it says that a boy will be born of a Virgin and they’ll call him Emanuel and it’s to fulfill a prophecy. Then have him turn over to Isaiah chapter 7:14 where this prophecy is stated. No big deal right , just confirmed it. Ok now have him read the whole chapter of Isaiah 7 from the beginning. You’ll find it has nothing to do with a coming messiah or Jesus or anything in a future time only about the king Ahaz and his enemies from Syria and before a kid named Emanuel is old enough to do something (can’t remember) Ahaz enemies will be no more.

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Is The Watchtower Society Just Copying The Mormon's Model?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a faithful jw i was pretty much obsessed with the mormon religion.

to me it was like lord of the rings.

i knew the characters, the history, the events, the joseph smith stories, the religion's history etc etc etc and i long suspected even then that the watchtower society has been copying certain things from the lds church.. for example, the first thing i noticed was when the book study was dropped and family worship was started.

Crazyguy2

I don’t think the JWs ever really had an original idea. Russell stole most his ideas from the Millerites and john Aquila Brown. Since then the other stole ideas from the seventh day Adventist’s and they even stole the idea of 1975 from Herbert Armstrong. Now it would seam they are getting their cues from Scientology and the Mormons.

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"The messiah" was to come from the "line of David" right??

by stuckinarut2 in

a huge realization hit me the other day while listening to a podcast that discussed the "lineage of jesus".. according to the bible, "the messiah" was to come through king davids lineage.

but, if you wade through the entire chapter of matthew that lists "son of ...son of...son of...etc", it becomes obvious that jesus did not come through davids line at all!.

in fact, that lineage lists jospeh (mary's husband) as being in davids line.

Crazyguy2

The whole thing is a mess, Mathews line goes to Jesus through Joseph but I think includes a king that was cursed and nothing was to go through him and Luke if I getting this right that line goes through Nathan and not Solomon so that’s a cluster to. Christians just say one line is for Mary and the other for Joseph.

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My conversation with the "Fixer" attorney for Pentecostal TV evangelists

by TerryWalstrom in

i had occasion to chat with a man who was the attorney for a large cabal (all related by blood) of pentecostal tv evangelists.

how it came about was as follows.i was finishing my first book about my stint in prison as a jw (i wept by the rivers of babylon)and a man in a suit walked over and asked me what i was working on.he said he'd seen me every day and got curious.i told him.he jumped at the chance to unburden at that point.in the course of our conversation, he opened my eyes to a great many things, not the least of which was the poisonous inevitability of larceny which comes with being a spokesman for god's 'truth.

'he described the process.

Crazyguy2

This helps to explain the sales of JW property’s. I know they the GB try and use mostly in-house attorneys people willing to work for free but as the trials and lawsuits mount they are probably going to be forced to use out side counsel more and more. It’s going to become very expensive to be a JW.

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The awful treatment of my disfellowshipped cousin still continues

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.

he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.

the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.

Crazyguy2

Hopefully after this treatment your cousin is no longer a believer.