Actually I found this out studying what Jewish scholars say about the Torah. Again I’m not saying some of the writings in the Bible weren’t older just they were not in a Jewish holy book or collection yet. Many writing in the Bible are not even Jewish in origin. The flood story as one example is just a copy of an older Sumerian story. It suspected that the creation story is also Sumerian. The dispute between Cain and Abel is a retelling of two Sumerian gods trying to get the affection of the Sumerian sky god and he also picks the one that supplies the meat. I could go on but I think what really happen is popular stories of the time we’re just put together as a collection of writings and then were edited to promote one god. I also think the god Serapis was a model for what was later to be this new guy called Jesus.
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The Truth about the bible
by TTWSYF init really is common sense, but nobody here seems to recognize or acknowledge this blatant and obvious truth.. the holy bible is the result of the catholic liturgy.
they used these scriptures in their religious practices and confirmed which books would and would not be part of their cannon.
they picked, preserved and promoted these books and gave 'the word of god' to the world.. i know that pisses off some folks, but it is the truth [not the 'truth'tm].
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2019--June--8--Weekend Meeting--Video--WTBTS-PA
by Atlantis inwatchtower bible and tract society of pa.. weekend meeting-june--8th--2019 speaker announced song at 4 minutes 30 seconds: public talk--is the trinity a scriptural teaching?at 31 minutes 12 seconds--the holy spirit is described as a finger and not on the same plain as jesus and his father.. at 34 minutes 20 seconds--jesus is superior to the holy spirit and jehovah is superior to both.at 35 minutes 20 seconds--public talk ends.. at 35 minutes 40 seconds--song.at 38 minutes 43 seconds--watchtower study.https://we.tl/t-idbbuwjlzi atlantis!
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According to the Bible the Holy Spirit is a person
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The Truth about the bible
by TTWSYF init really is common sense, but nobody here seems to recognize or acknowledge this blatant and obvious truth.. the holy bible is the result of the catholic liturgy.
they used these scriptures in their religious practices and confirmed which books would and would not be part of their cannon.
they picked, preserved and promoted these books and gave 'the word of god' to the world.. i know that pisses off some folks, but it is the truth [not the 'truth'tm].
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I have found that the earliest Torah was actually the Greek Septuagint and it was only the first 5 books. The whole Bible was really a Greek invention with maybe a spattering of Jewish propaganda and history thrown in. I think this Torah was introduced to push a new beliefs as the Greeks were all about influencing the ones they concurred and Ptolemy even introduced a new hybrid god named Serapis.
Ptolemy wanted a unified empire with one religion to help him get to his goal. The Bible was a collection of stories and saying even about other gods reintroduced but edited to be about this new one god. Christians and then the Roman Catholic Church did much of the same pushing a new god which was just an old god retold and renamed. “There’s nothing new under the son”.
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Active JW's - Are you following "the slave" or the Scriptures?
by The Fall Guy indespite the scriptures instructing christians to witness for christ, and not for god.... matthew 10:18; mark 13:9; luke 24:48; john 1:15; 5:37; john 8:18; john 15:26, 27; .
acts 1:8; 9:15,16; 10:39; 10:43; 13:31; 22:15; 22:20; 23:11; 26:16; 1 cor.
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Doesn’t the WT admit to changing the good news and state somewhere that since 1914 the good news is now about the kingdom not Jesus?
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607 date of Jerusalems destruction
by benny ini am confused about the time scale regarding the year of the destruction of jerusalem.
in the 1st october 2011 watchtower an argument is presented to back up 607 bc but there are so many conflicting arguments that this happened 20 years later according to secular sources.
your thoughts please..
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Benny there’s tons of info on this forum and all over the net showing the JWs wrong. One easy way is to count back the Babylonian kings from 539 when Cyrus took Babylon and their ruling years to Nebuchadnezzar and then calculate which year was the year he took over from his father. Let’s just say the evidence is overwhelming.
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2019 International Convention Growth Figures from Baptism
by HiddenPimo inso the borg has put up the attendance and baptism figured from the miami and atlanta international conventions.. amazing growth!.
atlanta - 46,374 peak attendance / baptized 314.
0.67% growth.
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The fact is these people baptized were already counted as publishers so really there’s no growth.
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Another major historical JW lie!
by Crazyguy2 inremember when we were younger we would read in their books or even see a drama on how jerusalem was surrounded by romans armies in 66 ce then one night they were just gone.
jewish rebels even chased them killing many as they left.
this i guessed fulfilled a prophecy in mathew and then the true followers of jesus would see this a know to flee to the mountains as the unfaithful stayed in jerusalem thinking all was well and the romans were gone for good until 4 years later they returned destroyed the city killing most of the inhabitants including unfaithful christians that didn’t heed the warning.
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Remember when we were younger we would read in their books or even see a drama on how Jerusalem was surrounded by Romans armies in 66 CE then one night they were just gone. Jewish rebels even chased them killing many as they left. This I guessed fulfilled a prophecy in Mathew and then the true followers of Jesus would see this a know to flee to the mountains as the unfaithful stayed in Jerusalem thinking all was well and the Romans were gone for good until 4 years later they returned destroyed the city killing most of the inhabitants including unfaithful Christians that didn’t heed the warning.
Well folks this didn’t happen! The Romans didn’t surround the city in 66 in-fact that’s the year the Jews went in to a major rebellion. A Roman leader dispatched his armies from the north from Syria to try and stop the rebellion was rebuffed and lost many men including siege engines and equipment but they the Romans never even came close to reaching Jerusalem.
This is another major Historical event the JWs have lied about! Of course we all know about 607 when Nebuchadnezzar wasn’t even king until 605. So add this to your list of lies.
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The last generation of JW’s
by HiddenPimo inif you take a moment to look at the demographics of your congregation (if you’re pimo), i think you will notice that the youngest elders are in their late thirty’s and early 40’s.. that is the generation that i was part of when still in as an elder,.
we were last ones to work on all the quickbuilds and the big conventions.
we were the last ones to remember the original jw way of life with the gatherings all the time and the books studies in the homes.
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This is a cult that gets people to stop living in the real world and live in their made up fantasy. Unfortunately there are young ones believing this crap because they know nothing else. When all your friends and most of your relatives are in it you go along too. Yes their dying but probably more to do with the CSA scandals and people leaving that have finished school like most young ones do. The good news is because of the scandals and the Internet less young ones will go back and more worldly will not join but that’s they only way I see this cult dying.
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USA growth -not
by loneranger in"be bold" circuit assembly in conyers, ga (usa) today.. average attendance was 1220...5 baptized....mid aged or olders ones, no kids.
must be near the end...the "speeding up" is slowing down?
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The last hall I attended 2/3 of the members were over 60. I’m willing to bet in America most European countries as well as Canada and Japan the same will be found in most of their halls.
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USA growth -not
by loneranger in"be bold" circuit assembly in conyers, ga (usa) today.. average attendance was 1220...5 baptized....mid aged or olders ones, no kids.
must be near the end...the "speeding up" is slowing down?
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Someone in my area a CO said a few years ago they were loosing a half dozen JWs per circuit assembly.