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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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Sorry. Who is Richard E. Kelly?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
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I'm saddened that Mark O'donnell isn't "with us" on this. I've truly admired his brilliant legal mind and memory for detail. Maybe it's like waking up from Watchtower was for me. I went through a very brief period,... perhaps only a few days,... when I thought I'd leave Watchtower behind, but never speak ill of it. Lol. Well, that didn't last long. Once I realized Watchtower had defrauded me of friendships, acheivements, earnings, my health, and a genuine, direct relationship with Jehovah and Jesus, I went online "looking" for ways to expose Watchtower. I hope Mark o'donnell wakes up from "Lloyd Evans". (That IS the name of Lloyd's cult, isn't it,... Lloyd Evans?)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
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LMsA, Evans will also decry how, for lack of funds, he can no longer do his magnificent, heroic, extraordinary work of saving the downtrodden.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Okay, here’s this, at least.
If any CSA survivor gives an interview to Evans regarding their abuse, this could jeopardize their case. They could ask Evans to refrain from publishing the interview. I believe he would comply. If not, they can request a gag order.
“In addition, a gag order instituted in a legal setting may ban the media from reporting information associated with the case.
“A gag order is typically utilized by a judge if he or she is fearful that a case is sensational or outlandish that it will be difficult for the defendant to receive a fair trial. Public discussions and the delivery of information can, in many cases, sway the outcome of a legal case, especially if a trial garners a great deal of public attention. When this occurs, a conflict is inherently spawned that directly impedes the defendant from receiving a fair trial. Such a conflict compromises the judicial values which state that evidence should be evaluated and considered impartially.”
https://court.laws.com/gag-order
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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It’s too bad the CSA survivors can’t launch some kind of “class action gag order” against Evans pretending to represent them. If they were officially embodied into a “class”, maybe it could be done.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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There is probably a book somewhere, or at least an article, that gives a list of how to avoid answering a question which, if answered fully and truthfully, would expose a vulnerability in the person who is being questioned. A “conversation worth having”. Lol. A “conversation worth having” with whom? With his barber? With the lawyer who is mounting a legal defense for him? Or, did he mean, “... “a conversation worth having”, for Andrew Gold to have with someone else, ...with ANYONE ELSE other than with him, Lloyd Evans?
He should “trademark” that expression and rent it out to politicians.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Wikipedia, False Statements of Fact, under Remedies, says:
"Punitive damages are sometimes available against an individual who made a public false statement of fact. Criminal liability, although uncommon, can be made although they are usually subject to the same limitations imposed on civil suits in terms of elements to be proven."
This sounds very close to a "false factual claim". If a "false statement of fact" is synonymous with a "false factual claim", then both terms describe a false statement which wrongly purports to be a fact. To simply say a "false claim" could, in some contexts be referring, for example, to a false claim over a piece of property.
In other words, what is under discussiion is a "factual" claim, as opposed to a claim on a piece of land, etc..
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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slimboyfat said,
"He will never understand how he has harmed people. He will never be convinced that other people matter as much as his own sense that he himself should be treated ‘fairly’. He will never stop unless circumstances make it impossible for him to continue."
After I read that, my mind went into overdrive thinking, ...so what would it take for Evans to get what he claims he needs? If Dijana divorces him, then will he marry the sex worker who best has fulfilled all his needs and be faithful to her?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

NCC, from Simon’s post, repeating JLE, found on forum page 342...
“Since it was impractical and too costly to include all 12 individuals who received warning letters (the translation costs alone are eye-watering), seven of the most egregious cases were selected and the remainder (including any that have yet to receive a letter) may be included in future civil action (for which the statute of limitations is three years) depending on the success of the criminal lawsuit and the damages paid out. Of course, those sued criminally can be further sued civilly.”
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Chinapomo, also like a jw committee meeting, Lloyd’s decision is made before calling the committee meeting. Like a jw committee meeting, Lloyd would like for there to just be a verdict with no trial. This is such fun for me now,... making fun of judicial committee meetings with other people who know how crooked those meetings were. I used to fervently pray before any kind of meeting with elders. And they were like goofy seventh-grade boys who could barely keep from making puns and bursting out laughing. How did we survive? My dog had more sense and decorum. (I still pray, but to God without the Watchtower filter.)