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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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From the excerpt of Lloyd's book that LMsA gave us:
"After a stressful two days on the road we were relieved to make it to Croatia on August 30, 2009. Dijana’s parents were delighted to finally have us with them. They had been without their daughter for three years, and I could tell they had missed her."
So, if Dijana went to Croatia and Lloyd followed her there... sigh... i couldn't be more confused... they didn't travel to Croatia together? Or Dijana went to Croatia, then returned to the UK to travel with Lloyd and some belongings, again back to Croatia? And , if so, then "They had been without their daughter for three years" wouldn't fit the narrative. Poetic license?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
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Diogenesister said,
"l also don't believe for a minute that Dijana has control of the family finances."
I agree. Without knowing either one, I so very agree. People who have never been in such a situation (or who have never cared deeply for a married woman in such a situation) may be astonished when presented with testiony that this happens, but it DOES. A JW wife can be asked, for example, by her husband to sign a check of money he will be giving to another sister, because he doesn't want to cast suspicion on himself, ...and then that wife will SIGN THE CHECK. (Those reading, please have the coutrtesy and good manners not to ridicule what I have said.)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Without straining my delicate brain too much,... would you say that the self-proclaimed professional activist's haul is down by about half?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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I lived through the era before internet,... back when tele-evangelists were the approximate equivalent of youtube stars. They had their ways of soliciting and collecting funds. Of course, JW's never sent them a dime. But still, when one (or several) of them became famously exposed as hopeless adulterers, even their most ardent admirers expected... and got... a tearful, gut wrenching apology from the "fallen Christian". And then, for a few weeks or months there were parishioners "forgiving" the humiliated "pastor". Usually the wronged wife would appear, sing a song, cry, and accept her husband's repentence. If he didn't have to go to jail for some other fraud he had committed, then he was free to continue fleecing the flock, as though nothing had happened. JW's didn't give it much thought or much mention, as we believed ourselves to be "above" all that corruption.
LE brings the whole theatrical "show" closer to home. We thought that even an "EX" jw would have more scruples left over than what we have seen from him.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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And their "advertisment" of their good deeds often leads to trouble for themselves,... being asked for money by people they don't know or barely know, for example.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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So, to prove to a judge that his critics have caused him to loose money, he should next start a survey where he asks, "If the magnificient seven hadn't ctiticized me, how much money would you have sent me?"
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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I see that The Downfall was from 2005. How did I miss that? Thanks for the reference. I'll watch it soon.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
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Borg Off said,
"...until someone puts together a channel as useful as Lloyd Evans channel his will remain one of the best places to go for people who are in the process of waking up."
Why would Lloyd's channel be "one of the best places to go for people who are in the process of waking up"? Sexual immorality, bullying, guilting for donations, ...What is Lloyd's advantage over Watchtower?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Borg Off, just as we warn people of the dangers of the business called the "Watch Tower, Bible, and Tract Society", we also warn people of the dangers of Lloyd Evans' business. We do this out of human kindness.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Prûner, I think 144thousand_and_one was referring to to when some unsuspecting soul "buys into" Lloyd (believes him) and then, on finding out who he really "is", has to again go through the whole waking up process, as we did when we found out that Watchtower is a complete fraud.
P.S. 144thousand_and_one, the quotation marks at the top of the page where you write your post will make the portion you are quoting turn "yellow", showing that those are not your words but that you are quoting someone else. I think not having that top sentence in "yellow" as a quote led to some confusion.