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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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2. scandals
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Thanks for the thumbs up, KIMSILVIO and the "quote" TonusOH. I have a paralegal degree that I barely got to use, but it provides me with an occassional insight.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Sometimes lawyers take a case without really knowing what they are getting into.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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When a JW becomes an ex-jw Atheist, that means that the ex-jw Atheist is absolved from having to unravel and expose Watchtower's false doctrines, doesn't it?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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I’ve always believed that Mark O’Donnell was highly intelligent and a very good writer, and I still believe this. I try to find the smartest, kindest, and most reasonable people available with whom to work and exchange ideas. At the time that Mark O’Donnell began working with Cedars, Mark probably had surveyed his options and Cedars looked like a person whose goals were similar to Mark’s and who had the energy to help put the word out against CSA and Watchtower’s corruption. Mark can’t predict the future any more than I can. At some point, he was probably as surprised about Cedars as the rest of us have been.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas said:
"Seriously though, she needs to get him to leave, and failing that take the girls and get out of there. Call his bluff."
I'm trying to picture how this would play out. Dijana and the girls would leave him, but would have no money to pay for food and lodging? With time, Dijana could probably start her own translation business, but starting a business takes time. And translation itself takes time. I think Cedars is feeling safe and cozy for now.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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A while back,... maybe a year or two ago,... I remember reading where Cedars had written (or said in a video?) to people in general that he wouldn't be able to keep answering their questions himself. He said that they could write in their questions and that someone on his staff would read what they wrote and might reply. He said that he had family responsibilities and just wasn't able to give enough time to his family and keep answering all the questions himself. I'd never written him nor posted on his channel at that time. But I BELIEVED HIM. I thought, "Poor guy. There probably ARE just too many people who desperately ask for help on how to leave Watchtower, and yet, the man must take care of his own family, too. They need time with him and he needs time with them." So, this new revelation from about three months ago is the reason I started reading this Thread on this website. It's not that no one else has ever been unfaithful to his or her mate. It's the jaw-dropping level of deceit as to "who" Cedars is.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Thanks, LouGoode.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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LouGoode, could you give us a link to the Croatian legal website, please? It may be contained in the screenshots somewhere, but I didn't see it. Thanks for the research.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Thanks, Jehalapeno:
He’s a graduate of MTS. (Ministerial Training School). Basically Gilead for single brothers.
So, the Org says:
"During the eight-week course, students undertake an intensive study of the Bible."
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

David Pakman's interview of Lloyd Evans is still available online. It was posted eight years ago. Lloyd looked and sounded good back then. But I did have to smile at one part of the blurb introducing Lloyd. It says:
https://davidpakman.com/interviews/lloyd-evans/
"John Cedars, former Jehovah’s Witness elder and a 2005 graduate of one of the religion’s training schools and Senior Editor of JWsurvey.org — one of the foremost blog sites in the Ex-Jehovah’s Witness community, joins David to discuss his story and issues surrounding his former religion."
"... a 2005 graduate of one of the religion's training schools..."? Was this an "elder's school"? How many days long would it have been? Maybe a week long? Probably no more than two weeks long?