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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Thanks, TonusOH. That sounds about right to me.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Kim Silvio, has anyone received a list of the accusations contained in Evans’ lawsuit? Is there any proof that there is actually a lawsuit filed?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

I Googled "Lloyd Evans scandal". This came up.
"Did Lloyd Evans and Kim Silvo caused a rift in the exjw community?"
Feb 1, 2022
That question struck me as funny because, to the best of my knowledge,
there has never been cohesion in the exjw community.
In fact, IS there even an exjw community?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Those screenshots make me glad I'm not on twitter. It looks exhausting.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

NonCoinCollector, I had to read your last comment twice for it to sink in. And then I laughed.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Diogenesister,
Yes, I agree. Why were a betrayal of trust and privacy at issue if the photos portrayed something absolutely innocent and random.
The term “circular reasoning” came to my mind. The longer the sequence of events within a circular reasoning, the more difficult the “circular reasoning” is to detect and define.
Wikipedia, Circular reasoning:
“The Pyrrhonist philosopher Sextus Empiricus described the problem of circular reasoning as "the reciprocal trope": “
The reciprocal trope occurs when what ought to be confirmatory of the object under investigation needs to be made convincing by the object under investigation; then, being unable to take either in order to establish the other, we suspend judgement about both.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

He had a really good thing going with the ex-jw videos. Money. Fame. Creativity. Having followers of his personality who didn't care much about his beliefs or lack thereof. A family is a terrible thing to waste. Smh.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Croatian to English translators, photos, and their pay rates.
https://www.upwork.com/hire/croatian-to-english-translators/hr/
Three different fellows listed are named "Marko M". :)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

NonCoinCollector, If anyone wants to lay out cash to get copies of the court filing, I think I’ve found the right website for ordering copies of that document. This link has a phone number, a Fax number, and two email addresses. There are pdf files. One pdf file is the information request form. All is in Croatian, of course.
Government website
http://www.vsrh.hr/EasyWeb.asp?pcpid=39
Right to information
... Persons authorized for providing information on the Supreme Court of the Republic of Croatia, its operation and administration as well as court proceedings are:
- Secretary General of the Supreme Court
- Office of the President – phone: 00 385 1 48 62 222, fax: 00 385 1 48 10 035, e-mail: [email protected], [email protected]
The relevant procedure for obtaining information from the Supreme Court may be found in the following documents:
[A list with prices for the ordered documents follows.]
Requests may be submitted directly, by post or e-mail at the following address: [email protected]
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

I’ve typed up the transcript of a two-minute portion of one of Lloyd Evans videos to share here on Jehovahs-witness forum. I’ve written a few words in capital letters, just so no one misses the reason I’m posting this. (My capitalization does not here indicate “shouting”.) Enjoy!
Title of video:
A conversation with M. James Penton (Watchtower historian, author and former elder)
4 years ago
Beginning 1:12:07
James Penton: ...so, I would say “move on”, find some joy, and continue to be a MORAL PERSON.
Lloyd Evans: Yeah, well, I think that’s the key, is being a MORAL PERSON, and you can, you can get there by any number of means. I think it’s really nice, as well, and just kind of going back to what we were saying before about kind of infighting and acrimony between ex Jehovah’s Witnesses,... it’s nice that you and I can have different views on whether there’s a god or not but still be friends, and still get along and still appreciate each other’s ideas. What’s interesting, I actually visited Vancouver back in June.
James Penton: Oh! Wonderful!
Lloyd Evans: Yeah. And someone stood up in the audience and said something along the lines of, you know, of “please tell me that there’s no one here who’s religious. You know we can get rid of religion entirely. Or, why don’t you tell people that they should all be atheist” or something along those lines. And my answer, I forget the exact words,...I think it’s in the, in the video, but how I feel about that is that it’s entirely up to the individual whether they decide to continue as a Christian or to get rid of religion all together. The main thing, as you say, is to be a MORAL PERSON, and to show kindness to your fellow man. And, I would also say that simply being an atheist doesn’t say anything about your morality. So, that’s why, even though I’m an atheist, I’m also a humanist. So, I believe in the advancement of the species, and I believe in equality and trying to make the world as loving and kind as it can possibly be. So, on that I think we can kind of agree that however, whatever journey we take to arrive at that better world, we need to be thinking about how we can get there.
Ending 1:14:15