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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Yes, Tibor is well advised to be open to offers from new employers.

  [This part is very "off topic",... but if not now, then when? Las Malvinas son Argentinas, every time I see your name, I'm transported to 1982. I was living in South America. Probably few here are aware of the historical significance of your "name".

  From National Geographic:

  Britain: Over the course of 10 weeks in 1982, British and Argentine forces battled for control over the tiny Falkland Islands—or, as they're known in Argentina, Islas Malvinas. Although Britain ultimately won the war, Argentina still claims sovereignty over the islands. Apr 1, 2022]
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Something was said implying that Tibor was still in school, or had just finished school, wasn’t it? Anyway, I got the impression that Tibor is a young man. For his own good, I think Tibor should scrape together jobs he has done “other than” the John Cedars channel to fill in the “time he spent” working for Lloyd when he writes up his current resumé. Now, true, if he applies for work with some corporation or a government job, his employment with the John Cedars channel will inevitably be listed, since he received a paycheck. But some jobs are best not mentioned when one wants to make a good first impression on a prospective employer.

  P.S. Malvinas, I hadn’t seen your post above when I wrote mine, but I think we are “on the same page”.
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  Malvinas said:

  Something like “Is Everything OK? Here are tips to increase your patronage!”

  That's funny. Don't you just want to strangle bots sometimes?

  Off the subject, but my electric bill "bot" always asks me, 'Are you calling from the phone that is associated with your account"? And I always have to answer, every time, "I don't know". There is no way for me to find out what phone number is associated with my account, unless I call and talk to a human specifically to find out what phone number is associated with my account. So far, it always takes my money, so I'll just keep doing it this way.
  
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  Maybe Lloyd thought that by saying he was "atheist", he had effectively escaped the confines of all known moral paradigms,... and that he could just start his own "society".

  After all, that's what Watchtower did!

  https://moralparadigm.com/what-is-moral-paradigm/?amp=1
  "What is Moral Paradigm?
  Moral paradigm is action pattern based on moral values, knowledge, beliefs, experiences and future expectations. Moral paradigm guides You through the life!"
  
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  Toblerone5, yes! I went to Evans 'taking a break' YouTube video that you posted and, lo and behold, my comment is still there! Here's what I wrote:

  4 months ago

  Enjoy your break. If you decide to read a book... I think that most children of JW's had "toxic parents". Decades before the internet, and decades before "waking up", reading this book helped me protect my mental health. With this book, I can mentally (if not verbally) defend myself from all the misinformed people's advice. "People can forgive toxic parents, but they should do it at the conclusion—not at the beginning—of their emotional house cleaning.” – "Toxic Parents: Overcoming Their Hurtful Legacy and Reclaiming Your Life", by Dr. Susan Forward and Craig Buck.

  I see now that that book is only two decades old. The book I'd read "decades ago" was actually this one, from 1986...

  Women Who Love Too Much

  by Robin Norwood
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Watchtower trains their elders exceedingly well on how to be hypocrites. (Some elders have woken up, and more are waking up every day. I hope they all wake up.) Those JW children who were raised by a well-trained hypocrite, and those who have been close friends with a well-trained hypocrite have a lot of un-learning to do when they wake up. Watchtower elders are trained in double-speak and double standards. The rules in the Shepherding book are always superseded by any verbally transmitted rules edicted from Headquarters. Lloyd has likely never had a role model with integrity.
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  I've only ever left Evan's one comment on his channel. I tried just now to find the video where he'd said he was going on a two (or three?) month break for mental health reasons, but I can't find it. Anyway, that's the video where I'd posted my one and only comment to him. I'd actually "believed" him, so in support of him taking a mental health break, I suggested he read the book, 'Toxic Parents: Overcoming Their Hurtful Legacy and Reclaiming Your Life" by Susan Forward. It's such a good book. And then I began running across stories of the "real" reason he was taking a break. When someone says they are in trouble, we care. We SHOULD care. Why does it surprise Evans that those of us who watched his video saying that he was not well mentally and "cared" about him ...NOW FEEL DUPED?
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  NonCoinCollector said:

  ”Truth will always stand up to attacks. Watchtower lacks that truth which is why they always have to invent "new light."”

  So, following in Watchtower’s footsteps, Lloyd will also need to keep inventing “new light” in order to stay relevant to his viewers. What will Lloyd’s “new light” be?
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  Lloyd has just now released a video based on a sent-in recording of a man who was disfelllowshipped from Watchtower. I didn't listen long enough to see whether the recording is recent or is old.
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  I think someone here already said that Lloyd will probably make videos based on phoned-in stories people have already left (long ago) on his recorder for him. And, did someone here suggest that he start a Croatian food channel? Oh, well. I’m suggesting it if no one else has. He might find a great Croatian chef and cook with him every week. But really, more “activism” against Watchtower,... no, that seems counter-productive after the revelations these past four months. He doesn’t want to analyze doctrines, does he? He doesn’t want to host support groups, does he? Maybe write another book,.. Apostate Can Cook, Living My Best New Life.