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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  The Apostle Paul was making fun of those who wanted women to keep quiet. The NWT leaves out a word that turns the whole meaning around. Here’s a quote from a Beroean Pickets (Eric Wilson) video and the link.

  “Paul’s tone is derisive here, even mocking. He’s trying to show them the folly of their reasoning, so he begins his thought with eta.

  The NWT fails to provide any translation for the first eta in verse 36 and renders the second simply as “or”.

  “If they want to learn something, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the congregation. Was it from you that the word of God originated, or did it reach only as far as you?” (1 Corinthians 14:35, 36NWT)

  By contrast, the old King James Version reads:

  “And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?” (1 Corinthians 14:35, 36KJV)”

  https://beroeans.net/2019/11/22/understanding-the-role-of-women-in-gods-family/
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I’d seen Mark O’donnell’s work three years ago, when I first woke up. I have only come to know Kim on this forum, and I’m so glad to have met her. I don’t know who the other nine female activists that you’ve mentioned are, lloydevansparody, but I hope to meet them soon. A few months after I woke up, I was invited to do the Spanish voice-over on a very short video by Barbara Anderson. It was a real thrill for me. If anyone has nine minutes to kill, this is my voice on Barbara Anderson - Mi Historia en Betel de Watchtower 5,780 views · 3 years ago.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy2k4nTD3ds

  Here’s the original English version with Barbara’s own voice.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsnft1DcZzo&feature=emb_rel_end
  
  
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  Sorry. Who is Richard E. Kelly?
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  I'm saddened that Mark O'donnell isn't "with us" on this. I've truly admired his brilliant legal mind and memory for detail. Maybe it's like waking up from Watchtower was for me. I went through a very brief period,... perhaps only a few days,... when I thought I'd leave Watchtower behind, but never speak ill of it. Lol. Well, that didn't last long. Once I realized Watchtower had defrauded me of friendships, acheivements, earnings, my health, and a genuine, direct relationship with Jehovah and Jesus, I went online "looking" for ways to expose Watchtower. I hope Mark o'donnell wakes up from "Lloyd Evans". (That IS the name of Lloyd's cult, isn't it,... Lloyd Evans?)
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  LMsA, Evans will also decry how, for lack of funds, he can no longer do his magnificent, heroic, extraordinary work of saving the downtrodden.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Okay, here’s this, at least.

  If any CSA survivor gives an interview to Evans regarding their abuse, this could jeopardize their case. They could ask Evans to refrain from publishing the interview. I believe he would comply. If not, they can request a gag order.

  “In addition, a gag order instituted in a legal setting may ban the media from reporting information associated with the case.

  “A gag order is typically utilized by a judge if he or she is fearful that a case is sensational or outlandish that it will be difficult for the defendant to receive a fair trial. Public discussions and the delivery of information can, in many cases, sway the outcome of a legal case, especially if a trial garners a great deal of public attention. When this occurs, a conflict is inherently spawned that directly impedes the defendant from receiving a fair trial. Such a conflict compromises the judicial values which state that evidence should be evaluated and considered impartially.”

  https://court.laws.com/gag-order
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  It’s too bad the CSA survivors can’t launch some kind of “class action gag order” against Evans pretending to represent them. If they were officially embodied into a “class”, maybe it could be done.
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  There is probably a book somewhere, or at least an article, that gives a list of how to avoid answering a question which, if answered fully and truthfully, would expose a vulnerability in the person who is being questioned. A “conversation worth having”. Lol. A “conversation worth having” with whom? With his barber? With the lawyer who is mounting a legal defense for him? Or, did he mean, “... “a conversation worth having”, for Andrew Gold to have with someone else, ...with ANYONE ELSE other than with him, Lloyd Evans?

  He should “trademark” that expression and rent it out to politicians.
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  Wikipedia, False Statements of Fact, under Remedies, says:
  

  "Punitive damages are sometimes available against an individual who made a public false statement of fact. Criminal liability, although uncommon, can be made although they are usually subject to the same limitations imposed on civil suits in terms of elements to be proven."

  This sounds very close to a "false factual claim". If a "false statement of fact" is synonymous with a "false factual claim", then both terms describe a false statement which wrongly purports to be a fact. To simply say a "false claim" could, in some contexts be referring, for example, to a false claim over a piece of property.

  In other words, what is under discussiion is a "factual" claim, as opposed to a claim on a piece of land, etc..
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  slimboyfat said,

  "He will never understand how he has harmed people. He will never be convinced that other people matter as much as his own sense that he himself should be treated ‘fairly’. He will never stop unless circumstances make it impossible for him to continue."

  After I read that, my mind went into overdrive thinking, ...so what would it take for Evans to get what he claims he needs? If Dijana divorces him, then will he marry the sex worker who best has fulfilled all his needs and be faithful to her?