If this is winding down, I just want to thank Simon for taking care of us all. We aren’t all cute and cuddly like a litter of puppies, so I know it hasn’t always been fun for you. I think that many of the points made in this thread really needed to be said. If no one mentions the “elephant in the room”,... if nobody will say, “The Emperor has no clothes”,... then we are left observing “insanity” parading itself as “normal behavior”. Thanks, Simon.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Okay. Good. I probably had his numbers confused with statistics on one of the other charts.
So far, since January, no abuse survivor has said, “I’m an abuse survivor and I want Lloyd Evans to tell my story”, have they? Please tell me no one has said this.
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Slimboyfat, but Evans’ numbers had been down below 500 previously, too, hadn’t they?
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Watchtower taught the meaning of the Apostle Paul’s words “wrong”, and that adversely affected the lives of millions of women. Actually, it adversely affected the lives of everyone in Watchtower, since the men then mistreated the women, failed to develop empathy and respect for women, and missed out on having a great relationship with the women in their lives.
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The Apostle Paul was making fun of those who wanted women to keep quiet. The NWT leaves out a word that turns the whole meaning around. Here’s a quote from a Beroean Pickets (Eric Wilson) video and the link.
“Paul’s tone is derisive here, even mocking. He’s trying to show them the folly of their reasoning, so he begins his thought with eta.
The NWT fails to provide any translation for the first eta in verse 36 and renders the second simply as “or”.
“If they want to learn something, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the congregation. Was it from you that the word of God originated, or did it reach only as far as you?” (1 Corinthians 14:35, 36NWT)
By contrast, the old King James Version reads:
“And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?” (1 Corinthians 14:35, 36KJV)”
https://beroeans.net/2019/11/22/understanding-the-role-of-women-in-gods-family/
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I’d seen Mark O’donnell’s work three years ago, when I first woke up. I have only come to know Kim on this forum, and I’m so glad to have met her. I don’t know who the other nine female activists that you’ve mentioned are, lloydevansparody, but I hope to meet them soon. A few months after I woke up, I was invited to do the Spanish voice-over on a very short video by Barbara Anderson. It was a real thrill for me. If anyone has nine minutes to kill, this is my voice on Barbara Anderson - Mi Historia en Betel de Watchtower 5,780 views · 3 years ago.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy2k4nTD3ds
Here’s the original English version with Barbara’s own voice.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsnft1DcZzo&feature=emb_rel_end
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Sorry. Who is Richard E. Kelly?
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I'm saddened that Mark O'donnell isn't "with us" on this. I've truly admired his brilliant legal mind and memory for detail. Maybe it's like waking up from Watchtower was for me. I went through a very brief period,... perhaps only a few days,... when I thought I'd leave Watchtower behind, but never speak ill of it. Lol. Well, that didn't last long. Once I realized Watchtower had defrauded me of friendships, acheivements, earnings, my health, and a genuine, direct relationship with Jehovah and Jesus, I went online "looking" for ways to expose Watchtower. I hope Mark o'donnell wakes up from "Lloyd Evans". (That IS the name of Lloyd's cult, isn't it,... Lloyd Evans?)
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LMsA, Evans will also decry how, for lack of funds, he can no longer do his magnificent, heroic, extraordinary work of saving the downtrodden.
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Okay, here’s this, at least.
If any CSA survivor gives an interview to Evans regarding their abuse, this could jeopardize their case. They could ask Evans to refrain from publishing the interview. I believe he would comply. If not, they can request a gag order.
“In addition, a gag order instituted in a legal setting may ban the media from reporting information associated with the case.
“A gag order is typically utilized by a judge if he or she is fearful that a case is sensational or outlandish that it will be difficult for the defendant to receive a fair trial. Public discussions and the delivery of information can, in many cases, sway the outcome of a legal case, especially if a trial garners a great deal of public attention. When this occurs, a conflict is inherently spawned that directly impedes the defendant from receiving a fair trial. Such a conflict compromises the judicial values which state that evidence should be evaluated and considered impartially.”