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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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2. scandals
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I, too, have had the frustrating experience of wording a comment on something that's "just plain wrong" in an exceptionally gracious manner, and then having my "graciousness" weaponized against me. (I am not referring to anything on this thread,... just in case I might be misunderstood.)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
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Ermm... I think I know why Evens may have chosen to read that book. Here's more of it's blurb:
"God: An Anatomy Hardcover – Deckle Edge, January 25, 2022
"[A] rollicking journey through every aspect of Yahweh’s body, from top to bottom (yes, that too) and from inside out ... Ms. Stavrakopoulou has almost too much fun.”—The Economist"
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

We are on page 390. Just thought I'd mention this landmark.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Thanks so much, diogenesister. Just before you gave me this, it dawned on me that he is the ex patron of Evans whose video I'd watched. I'd even commented on his video and he gave me the little "like" emoji. So, I searched back through my screenshots and found the name of his video, found the video, copied the link,.. and got back here ...to read your post. Lol.
I've recently contacted Watchtower History, too. Yes. Thanks.
But I can't find a way to contact Truth Seeker Atheist other than on the comment section of his youtube channel. I can't put my email online for the public. And I don't have a go-between.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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LMsA said,
The documentary was with Peter Jueck (Truth Seeker Atheist on YouTube) and former Russellite/Bible Student. Peter made commentary about who in the exhibits actually spilt from Rutherford and joined Bible Student movements.
Would he be the Bible Student historian that Diogenesister mentioned a few pages back?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Still... it would 'make my day'.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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I just hope to see Watchtower collapse soon. People have needed help leaving. They had no support system and almost no friends or even acquaintances to whom to turn. Ten years ago, few psychologists had any clue about what was inside the mind of an awakening JW. The extent of the indoctrination is almost impossible for those who have never been a “subject” of the Organization to comprehend. There are some books on the subject now, and there are online support groups that recognize the cult mentality of Watchtower. Lloyd’s channel looked like an oasis in the desert when I first woke up three years ago,... but I’m glad I kept looking around and didn’t let him be my guide. Sooo glad I didn’t do that.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Yes, who’s stolen someone’s camera, but forgot to steal their hair comb.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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NCC, the title on Evans' photo (video cover?), "Warwick, a journey to my former faith", evokes a cring reaction in me. I was a JW because I believed it was the "true religion". It wasn't. My faith was misplaced. But after all we've learned about Evans since last January, the title on that photo, "Warwick, a journey to my former faith", sounds like a lie. It sounds like he's just really good at writing titles that evoke pathos. Was he ever really one of Jehovah's Witnesses? Did he ever really believe ...put faith in,... what Watchtower taught? As it turns out, Watchtower itself is full of hypocrisy, and even at its best, it perverted our faith away from God. But, I now believe Evans' title, "Warwick, a journey to my former faith", is a sham.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Diogenesister said,
Lloyd was taken in by a local man and a historian of the Bible student movement, well known to watchtower. Nothing 'off' there.
Do you know the name of that "local man and a historian of the Bible Student movement" and how I might contact him? I would very much like to speak with someone knowledgeable on the history of the Bible Students movement.