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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
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Vintage

https://ecorp.azcc.gov/CommonHelper/GetFilingDocuments?barcode=04184930
Articles of incorporation aawa file number
-1829757-7
The artcles of incorporation document that SBF gave us has a file number. Does that file number help find more information?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

I'd tried to find something that you could use, JeffT. But, alas! SBF has an informant called "somebody", and I don't have one.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Lloyd’s little girl, Jessica, is beautiful, smart, and obedient. I shake my head. How could he have done such terrible things to his family?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

“Lloyd Evans then privately took up this issue with Marc and kindly explained to him why he felt he was innocent…
Just kidding.”
I laughed out loud, LMsA.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

That looks great, slimboyfat.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

When "John Cedars" gave the names of everyone on the first AAWA iteration, he provided everyones' real name but his own.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250042/aawa-here-association-anti-watchtower-activists
"AAWA is legally incorporated in Arizona. It comprises of an advisory board of eight individuals including...

Myself
Barbara Anderson
Richard E Kelly
Paul Grundy (jwfacts)
Mickey Hudson (Danmera)
Bo Juel Jensen
Lee Marsh (Lady Lee)
John Hoyle (Juan Viejo2)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

I found the look-up page, but I can't find anything. Fizzywiglet gives "document number 04184930" below.
https://501c3lookup.org/
fizzywiglet on page 34 of Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page".
(Over half-way down in a very long post)
"...When others pointed out that Cedars uses his pseudonym on AAWA's official articles of incorporation paperwork, and an address which is not his own, but Richard Kelly's (scroll to the "articles of incorporation" box and click the button labeled "document number 04184930"...it's on page 2 of that document), that seemed to me like it couldn't possibly be legal."
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

I’ll make a wild guess that Evans won’t be recycling his “Lloyd Evans Meets the (fill in the blank)” video title format. Aside from our having exhausted the supply of really funny ones, Evans surely wouldn’t want to give us the satisfaction of winning the “best title” competition with the ultimate buzz-kill, “Lloyd Evans Meets His Maker”,... though I’d be interested to hear their exchanges when that happens.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Slimboyfat, I read Crisis of Conscience online, because it wasn’t available for sale as a hardcopy at the end of 2018. It’s a huge, thick book (for those who haven’t read it) and I probably harmed my eyes reading it in three or four days. And then, amazingly, it became available for sale through Amazon, so I ordered a hardcopy. I was so excited to receive it, and I planned to go back and read certain spots. But, like you, Slimboyfat, I was mortified that a JW might see that I had it. So, I took two sheets of white typing paper and carefully made a book cover to hide the title. My fear was that I might open the door to JWs and they would see the book near my door.
And then I ordered In Search of Christian Freedom. But, within days of receiving the first book, by the time the second book arrived, I had lost my morbid fear of being discovered with Ray Franz’ books by any JW who might show up. That’s how fast I lost my fear of being disfellowshipped. And I didn’t make a book cover for Ray Franz’ second book. :)
P. S. JeffT, I think you would do a great job of writing an overview. And you probably have the managerial skills to delegate pieces of the work to others.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Slimboyfat, A good proofreader who understands the topic is a valuable asset.
Diogenesister, actuallly, one of the men had told me about Crisis of Conscience decades before I read it. I think that he had been PIMO for a very long time. He could easily have arranged a eulogy for himself if he’d wanted one. He was a lawyer and had argued before the U.S. Supreme Court for Watchtower long ago. No, I think that having no funeral ceremony was his choice.
The other man had been imprisoned during WWII for neutrality and was on his second (JW) marriage. So, again, I believe that he had made the choice himself to have no funeral ceremony. Neither men were newbies being pushed around.