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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
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Vintage

Yes, that’s a good illustration, LouGoode. In effect, Evans is still appealing to Watchtower for his credibility and respect, even though we’ve all figured out that Watchtower can’t be trusted and, as a religious authority, deserves no respect. Speaking of Jesus, Luke wrote, “He also told them this parable:“Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?”” Luke 6:39. Evans is saying, “Follow me!”, but he is clueless on where he is going.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Thanks for confirming, Thisismein1972. Watchtower always gives the spin that everything they do is for the spiritual good of the congregation. Once we remove that “red herring”, we can then see the true reason behind each of Watchtower’s moves. As if Watchtower would be spending time and money to train “Lloyd and company” so they could bring more spirituality to those congregations!! Ha! Watchtower just needed more eyes and ears. Lloyd seems to be flattering himself that Watchtower thought he was really hot stuff for them to invite him to MST.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

It sounds as though MST (Ministerial Training School?) was Evans pinnacle of prestige. I read at this link that the MTS was 8 1/2 weeks long. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/159793/mts-school
Maybe they made it shorter at some point? The description of the program sounds to me like the Society was being lied to by bodies of elders in various congregations, so they "trained" men to go into those congregations as spies for Watchtower, to get a different perspective of what was going on from whatever the congregation elders had been telling the Society.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Yes, that would be quite a collection of evidence to explain away. When will the contents of his most recent filing become available to you and his other targets, Kim?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Kim said,
"And financial records confirming the 2-3 months 3/4 years story".
I'm trying to wrap my mind around this. There must be an irony somewhere in this. Let's see... those being sued by Evans could counter-sue. They could ask Evans to confirm that what he says in his confessional video is true. They would ask him to confirm to the court that he spent money to pay SW's and that he did this every 2 to 3 months over a 3 to 4 year period, as he stated in his video.
If Evans denies the truthfulness of his confessional video before the court, then those he is now suing might find grounds to counter-sue Evans for deceiving them, by his video, into believing that he had paid SW's every 2-3 months for 3-4 years. The acft dot com website says, ""Fraud" is any activity that relies on deception in order to achieve a gain. Fraud becomes a crime when it is a "knowing misrepresentation of the truth or concealment of a material fact to induce another to act to his or her detriment. (Black's Law Dictionary)"
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

I couldn't resist. Here's one of many definitions of "buchipluma".
1. Crop and feather
Qualifying expression used by Dominicans for people who do nothing more than threaten and create expectations of something they can never do.
1. Buche y pluma
Expresión calificativa que usan los dominicanos para las personas que no hacen más que amenazar y crear expectativas de algo que nunca podrán realizar.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Buchipluma (Spanish) describes a person who talks a lot, but has no substance.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

Using Evans' logic,... will he give us the name and contact information of each SW he has used, so that we can verify that they weren't "coerced or trafficked"?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

You were the number 4900th reply, Ron W. There's no prize as far as I know, but I thought that "honorable mention" might make you smile.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Vintage

If Evans thinks that sharing that information with the community could, in any way, provide a way for the defendants to better prepare themselves against him or counter his aggression, realizing this could have caused him to change his mind about "sharing". After all, he'd had no intention of sharing out of a desire to be "fair" to those he accuses. Telling his public that he would "share" that information was, rather, intended to elicit admiration from any supporters he has left, and was his form of "saber-rattling" toward those he accuses.