No, I was talking about something else. I wasn't talking about fear of the organization nor of fear of examining the religion. I had begun waking up from Watchtower. Ray Franz' book took away the myth that the Governing Body was a group of righteous men who constantly examined the scriptures for every decision they made. It just wasn't true. Rather, they took votes to decide matters, following a long-time Watchtower proceedure, with seldom mentioning any scripture. Although I believed Ray Franz, I still had the idea (briefly, like for a month) that I should not speak disparagingly of Watchtower nor of the Governing Body. But very soon, all the injustice I had suffered at the hands of Watchtower, and all the deprivation I had accepted as my lot in life due to being a JW caused indignation to boil up inside of me. I shouldn't have been treated like that and neither should those who are still trapped inside of Watchtower. So I began to "say so" and to throw off my misguided loyalty to Watchtower.
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WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....
by BoogerMan in.......you will experience a fate worse than death!
you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.
you've got one month to change your mind.
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Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church
by OrphanCrow indeaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.
the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.
" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.
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Opps! Oh, I see what you mean. I should have enlarged the page a little more. Actually, because I thought it said "1 year" is the reason I posted here. Otherwise, I was on the verge of starting my own thread. All of the threads on the deaf that I found here were quite ancient. Out on the internet as I've searched around, I found some videos made by "awake" deaf, but without captions. When I slow the speed down, I can understand maybe 15 to 20% of the signs, plus the facial expression and body language helps me string it together. In South America, I mostly had interpreted the JW "talks", so my sending skill far surpassed my receptive skill.
I'll keep looking through the threads for a workmate. If I don't find one, I can still make a video... just giving it my best effort. It should at least open up dialog beneath the video.
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WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....
by BoogerMan in.......you will experience a fate worse than death!
you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.
you've got one month to change your mind.
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Yes, Ray Franz' book enlightened me on that point. I went through a phase, ever so brief, where I still thought I shouldn't say anything against Watchtower. That "loyalty" to the organization was so beat into us. Sadly, some who are waking up seem to get stuck in the trap of never actually "turning on" Watchtower and denouncing it,... so they are still in a daze and not fully awake.
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Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church
by OrphanCrow indeaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.
the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.
" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.
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Diogenesister, thank you for your interest in my project. I had to Google "makaton". I'd done sign language in South America in Spanish, so this is one reason that I'm searching for a collaborator, whether deaf or another interpreter,... but someone who can, well, ...fix my mistakes. And I'm not only rusty in remembering the signs, but my poor hands now seem to move in slow motion.
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Submission and stupid rules
by Lady Lee inwhat a load of crap this stupid belief was.
i'll give you a couple of examples.
i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.
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I'd like to have help making a video for the deaf... to help them leave Watchtower.
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Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church
by OrphanCrow indeaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.
the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.
" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.
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I haven't heard back from Ixonegal. So, if there are other deaf interpreters, or deaf persons, reading this who might be interested in collaborating with me on making an eye-opening video for deaf JW's, please let me know.
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WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....
by BoogerMan in.......you will experience a fate worse than death!
you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.
you've got one month to change your mind.
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It was over ten years ago that I attended my last JW memorial. At one of the last ones I attended (sorry I now can't recall which event happened at which year's memorial), I sat near the front row. The elder giving the talk looked at me when he said, "And some only show up here for memorial and don't attend any of the other meetings during the rest of the year". I think he added some sort of snort of disgust, saying something like, "As if that will save them". It was the closest thing to Tony Morris blowing out the match that I'd ever seen or heard... and he was looking at "me".
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Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church
by OrphanCrow indeaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.
the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.
" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.
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Ixonegal, your last post on this thread is from a year ago. If you don't respond to this post of mine, I'll soon send you a private message.
I woke up 4 years ago from Watchtower. I read Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz and saw that the Governing Body isn't real. They are frauds and impostors with no spiritual qualifications. I was an interpreter for Watchtower for about 8 years. I want to make a video to help deaf wake up from Watchtower, but I also want them to keep their faith in Jehovah and Jesus. Would you be available to help me with this project? I think I would like to interpreta video of Ray Franz himself. It will be a very short video. I have created a youtube channel for this purpose.
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WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....
by BoogerMan in.......you will experience a fate worse than death!
you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.
you've got one month to change your mind.
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I knew one missionary sister who would knit during meetings. She had somehow gotten a doctor to vouch for her that she needed to do this for "stress", and it was the story that she put out ...and that everyone repeated for her. Why didn't "I" do that? It would have made productive use of that miserably wasted time.
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WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....
by BoogerMan in.......you will experience a fate worse than death!
you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.
you've got one month to change your mind.
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Thank you, punkofnice. It makes my day to return to the comment I posted last night and find your comment... and that you'd read my story. Only, I beg you,.. I"m not "Viny". "Viny" is the man who once sold me a computer. I'm Vintage, and I'm female. Can't you tell by my avatar? It looks exactly like me. I could use it as my passport photo.