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  144,000 & The Trinity

  by Libby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now that i'm looking beyond what the wt teaches i'm struggling to find information on three topics.

  the 144,000, the trinity and prayer.. if anyone has 5 minutes could they explain:.

  1. what do other religions think the 144,000 are or is?

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  Libby

  Moggy Lover thank you for taking the time to explain the Trinity. It's so complex. I can feel my brain melting trying to understand it. The penny is starting to drop though so thank you.
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  144,000 & The Trinity

  by Libby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now that i'm looking beyond what the wt teaches i'm struggling to find information on three topics.

  the 144,000, the trinity and prayer.. if anyone has 5 minutes could they explain:.

  1. what do other religions think the 144,000 are or is?

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  Libby

  @Londo111 that's really interesting what you're saying about most of Revelation applying to the first century and it nearly not being included. Do you have any links to information on this ?

  Thanks everyone I've found all your thoughts really helpful. It's really hard to get my head around it all.
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  144,000 & The Trinity

  by Libby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now that i'm looking beyond what the wt teaches i'm struggling to find information on three topics.

  the 144,000, the trinity and prayer.. if anyone has 5 minutes could they explain:.

  1. what do other religions think the 144,000 are or is?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Libby

  Now that I'm looking beyond what the WT teaches I'm struggling to find information on three topics. The 144,000, The Trinity and Prayer.

  If anyone has 5 minutes could they explain:

  1. What do other religions think the 144,000 are or is?

  2. I can find lots of information as to scriptures that show how God and Jesus can be the same. But if Jesus is God, how did he send himself to earth ? And how did he pray to God when on earth ?

  3. If God and Jesus are the same do other religions still ask their prayer in Jesus's name or do they just say Amen ?

  sorry if these questions seem basic. I never realised before that other religions worship Jesus.
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  Where do I go now?

  by Libby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.

  where do i go now to get baptised?

  is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

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  Libby

  Thanks everyone I'm taking time to read through your messages and digest them.
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  Where do I go now?

  by Libby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.

  where do i go now to get baptised?

  is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

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  Libby

  Did anyone sit there and think "how can this be. It all has to be true, because if all that I've been taught isn't true then life makes no sense. But none of it is true. The facts are there on paper. It was there all the time but I couldn't see it. ".

  I keep thinking well I'll still believe this part. But then if parts aren't true then none of it can be true. Because you take one piece of the jigsaw away and the formula they apply doesn't fit.

  How long does it take for the fear of Armageddon to go away. ? What will happen to me when I die?
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  Where do I go now?

  by Libby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.

  where do i go now to get baptised?

  is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

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  Libby

  Millie2010 thank you so much. Your message has really touched me. I'm still trying to process everyone's messages. This whole thing has knocked the energy right out of me. I've been in bed all week completely exhausted. My head spinning with all the information I've read on JWfacts. You much be one strong women. You were far more rooted it all. I love the you decided to fill the hole with a whole. I'm going to really think on that. How I can fill the empty hole and not feel loneliness.

  I first need to get my mind to stop spinning. Stop questioning everything. It's too much at once. I can't believe that I believed the literature. Thanks again.
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  Where do I go now?

  by Libby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.

  where do i go now to get baptised?

  is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

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  Libby

  Giordano thank you for the link on baptism I'll have a read and bare in mind your thoughts.
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  Where do I go now?

  by Libby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.

  where do i go now to get baptised?

  is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

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  Libby

  Thanks so much Unsure. It helps so much to know that I'm not alone in these feelings. Your prayers sound very similar to mine.
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  Where do I go now?

  by Libby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.

  where do i go now to get baptised?

  is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

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  Libby

  Thanks everyone for your suggestions. My back is that as a child my parents had bible studies with the witnesses on and off. I was raised with the beliefs of the teachings from the witnesses. However as a teenager I never felt accepted at the Kingdom Hall. Because my parents weren't in the truth, I was an outsider. I didn't have the right clothes etc and the Kingdom Hall just became another place I didn't belong. As an adult I'd always prayed to Jehovah, so sometime ago after receiving a copy of the watchtower I decided to have a bible study. As my study went on I began to discover that Armageddon was no longer expected by the generation that witnessed 1914 but there's whole over lapping generations. Which I could not get my head around. Then after a particular study about the mosaic law. I began to realise that the governing body was no different to any other religious organisation. Picking and choosing how to apply scriptures to control the people. I'd read "we're no longer under the mosaic law but this scripture shows Jehovah's feeling on it" Thus implying that you should still observe the mosaic law, when the bible repeatedly chastised leaders for continuing to make people observe the mosaic law. So now I just feel so lost. I've lived in fear of Armageddon my whole life. Now I don't know what to believe. How can there be nothing? No purpose. Make every day count. But what if life's not that great. Where's the hope that a greater power will help life get better?
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  Where do I go now?

  by Libby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.

  where do i go now to get baptised?

  is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

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  Libby

  So I thought my purpose was to serve Jehovah and get baptised. Where do I go now to get baptised? Is baptism even a requirement for serving God or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.

  When any of you were baptised did you feel the Holy Spirit.

  Do you still pray ? To whom do you pray ? So lost. Advice please.