Great points! Also, why does the bible say god hardens peoples hearts, like Pharaoh, which ultimately led to his army's, and possibly his own death in the red sea?
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God does not desire any to be destroyed?
by stuckinarut2 inso if the idea is promoted that god doesn't want anyone to be destroyed, why does he make it so confusing for people to learn about him?.
why are there thousands of differing religions?.
why has "his only true organisation" even taught so many varying doctrines?.
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Terrorist attack in Turkey leaves 28 dead
by ILoveTTATT2 inhttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36658187.
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Idiots. When are these people gonna realize that were all walking around on the same small rock with a thin layer of air above us and molten magma below, circling a runaway hydrogen fusion nuclear reaction, and travelling alone through a vast expanse at roughly 400,000 mph?
We need to stop fighting over who's Jesus is better and start working together!
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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I wonder what my parents would say about this. My parents have always worked hard jobs, like manual labor jobs, and they've never made more than 3-4 thousand a month, let alone $4000 a day! They've had a rough go the last couple of years too because they're getting older and the work they've done all their lives is becoming too hard. No savings, No 401k, no growing to perfection.
I've got some entrepreneurial plans in the works and if I can I'll pay their retirement because they're good people, but just HALF of ONE DAY of fines the WT will be paying would set my parents for a whole month, hell, that's more than I make in a month right now.
I'm not sure how much my parents put in the donation box but I'm guessing one day of fines wipes out AT LEAST 4-5 years of my parents donations.
So there you go, they've put their hard earned money in the box for 4-5 years to pay for watchtower to keep their secrets for ONE MORE DAY!
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I always liked that guy on Community. Didn't know he was exjw. Interesting :)
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In answer to question ( can a man wear skirt on stage). Governing Body member Jackson
by possum inhttps://www.youtube.com/edit?o=u&feature=vm&video.
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Here you go. Hopefully it works.
Edit: I just watched the video more closely. With that skirt and a regular jacket on he looks like an idiot.
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Why are some that post here JW apologists?
by ctrwtf inmy rant tonight is against the quasi religious apologists that post on this board.
those who at once rail against the jw's then later talk about how "orderly" and "neat" the witnesses are at their conventions.
those who site the benefits of bloodless surgery to some who have the luxury and time to actually make an educated choice, while ignoring the tens of thousands who've died because they happen to be in an accident or succumb to a disease for which there is no other treatment.. i understand the power of cognitive dissonance.
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Just the fact that fisherman posted what he did in this thread in particular confirms my suspicion that he is just a troll kicking the beehive lol
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Religious Divergence Cabal ?
by berrygerry inokay, conspiracy theory brain at work here.. a previous post spoke of rutherford obtaining a monetary backer to invest in this religion-based opportunity.. when looking at mormons and jw's, they are both nutty, but different strains of nuts to appeal to different niche segments of society.. always seems, though, that this an "out-there" idea.. but then, someone posted this video of planned obsolescence, and the light bulb cartel.. light bulbs?.
yup.. the lightbulb conspiracy - planned obsolescence (somewhat ironically posted by thetruthisdiscovered ).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdh7_pa8gzu.
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I've suspected something like this in the electronics industry. We all know how you can buy a computer, laptop, tablet, or flat screen TV, and a month later there's a new model 2x as good for the same price. I think manufacturers let out new tech in a slow drip method to squeeze more profits out. If they revealed their best high tech product right away they wouldn't have a shiny new model to release next month.
Whether religions are guilty of this, I'm not sure, but I wouldn't put anything past them. Rutherford himself said religion is a snare and a racket....
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Scary Dream
by freemamaof3 ina little background- i faded in august 2015. ive got to small kids and one on the way.
i dont believe the jw cult nonsense anymore.. .
ok so last night i had the scariest dream.
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That sounds like a horrible dream, the kind where you're extremely relieved when you wake up!
I had a JW dream a couple weeks ago. Keep in mind I've been out for over 8 years.
In my dream I was a teenager (15'ish) again, but I still had my current problem-with-authority (JW authority in particular) mindset and I knew what I know about TTATT.
I lived with my parents and they were pestering me to go to the meeting but I told them I was never going again because of the horrible control and things the watchtower has done.
Throughout the dream my dad was yelling and my mom was crying, and they told me that if I wanted to leave the house again before I was 18, I would have to go to all meetings and service, and not criticize the Org. It was that, or move out at 15.
I woke up soon after and it was a relief, but it sucks knowing that there are teenagers going through that in real life. It gave me a new respect for them and I really feel for them.
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78 to go and hopefully something good comes of it. Please do your part and sign up. Thanks
by Tenacious inonly 78 signatures are needed in order to send the request to the irs that they revoke or at the very least investigate the borg.
come'on guys, support it.. click here to support and sign up!.
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Evolution is a Fact #34 - Hiccups and Tadpoles
by cofty inhiccups are a weird phenomena.
they are a combination of two involuntary actions - firstly a rapid inhalation of breath followed 35 milliseconds later by the glottis at the back of the throat suddenly closing off our airway.. our normal breathing is controlled by a "central pattern generator" in a small region of the brain stem close to the boundary with the spinal cord.
a signal is sent along the vagus and phrenic nerves resulting in a rhythmic contraction of muscles in chest, diaphragm and throat.. these nerves branch off right at the top of the spinal cord and follow a convoluted path through the chest cavity.
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Yeah, I'm sorry, I could never get behind the FE argument. It's entertaining hearing some people's viewpoint on it, but it's always just so convoluted.
The guy in the first video obviously doesn't know how or why the moon is tidally locked, and the way the disc moon would move for that theory to work is exactly what he scoffed at in the beginning of the video.
He can't understand why we only see one side of the moon, (tidally locked) but he's OK with the top of the moon always pointing at the center of the FE.
It makes me wonder if flat earth people have ever looked at the moon through a telescope to see the impact craters and scarring from billions of years of asteroid impacts.
The guy in the second video is saying the tides don't make sense, yet the tides are predicted with very good accuracy. I don't buy the theory that it's electromagnetism. Where would the magnetism come from? The amount of electromagnetism it would take to affect something like the ocean which is non metallic, would wreak havoc on anything metal like steel ships or buildings. Gravity pulls on everything equally no matter the material its made of, the oceans just have so much mass and can move freely, so that's where it is noticeable. The earths molten core has tides as well.
On that subject, take any liquid and either drop it, or put it in a zero G environment, and it takes the shape of a sphere. Raindrops are spheres because they are falling (basically zero G, gravity has no effect on the shape when it's already falling) and that's the natural shape they assume.
When the earth formed it was molten liquid rock in a zero G environment. Even now we're sitting on rock floating on liquid. If we weren't, there would be no magnetic field, no tectonic plates, and no earthquakes. So to me it only makes sense that this planet and all others are spheres, its the natural shape you can observe in real time with any falling liquid.
I mean no disrespect with these posts, to each their own, as long as you don't knock on my door on Saturday morning to tell me about the Flat Earth Society or make my family shun me because I think the earth is round haha :) I just find it enjoyable debating flat earth and trying to wrap my head around other people's theories.