what is in the background?????.
now read what was released and given to all convention attenders about the building of his gravesite, about what's inside it, and about who owns all the land.
from the book called souvenir report of the bible student's convention jan. 2-5, 1919 link:.
I just posted my research done today at the Allegheny County Recorder of Deed's Office showing the ties between the Mason's, JWs, and the Catholic church where this property is concerned.
Unfortunately, I cannot figure out how to post the images of the original documents on this site.
If someone who IS able to post pictures can help me by sending me their e-mail address, I'd be happy to send the scanned images so they can post it.
yes, by land transfers - connected.. .
first - masonic hall property.
the parcel now known as the land owned by the mason's appears to have been consolidated some time ago to form one huge parcel.
Guess I should mention I live in Pittsburgh, work two buildings away from the Recorder of Deeds Office, live 10 minutes away from Russell's Dad's clothier and 20 minutes from the gravesite.
For the Pgh lurkers who may figure out who I am... the truth IS the truth. I'm sorry.
yes, by land transfers - connected.. .
first - masonic hall property.
the parcel now known as the land owned by the mason's appears to have been consolidated some time ago to form one huge parcel.
Yes, by land transfers - connected.
FIRST - MASONIC HALL PROPERTY
The parcel now known as the land owned by the Mason's appears to have been consolidated some time ago to form one huge parcel.
The Masonic Fund Society for the County of Allegheny purchased 42 acres of land in 1994 from the Catholic Cemeteries Association of the Diocese of Pittsburgh, Inc. for $610,000.
BUT there is a caveat! Included in the deed transferring the property from the Catholic Church to the Masonic Fund Society is this....
" RESERVING AND EXCEPTING therefrom and thereout all that lot of lands of Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society bound and described.
Beginning at the northeast corner of said property S 01" 40; 00" W a distance of 130 feet to a point. Thense N88" 20" 00" W a distance of 135.00 feet to a point. Thense N 01" 40' 00" E a distance of 130 feet to a point. Thence N 88" 20' 00" E a distance of 135 feet to the point of beginning. Land being located in the norteast eare of Parcel I, as set forth on the above-mentioned subdivision."
Also noted is a paragraph that included this statement:
BEING part of the same property which Right Reverned Regis Canevin, by his deed dated March 14, 1910... granted and conveyed to North Side Catholic Cemetery. And also being part of the same property which Rosemont, Mount Hope and Evergreen United Cemeteries, by deed dated December 14, 1917, ... conveyed to the North Side Cemetery. By Aarticles of Consolidation, recorded December 29, 1952... NOrth Side Catholic Cemetery and other corporations were cosolidated into the Catholic Cemeteries Association of the Diocese of Pittsburgh. See also the Contract and Agreement by and between United States Investment Co., Ltd. and Rosemont, Mount Hope and Everreen United Cemeteries, dated April 20, 1905, and recorded May 12, 1905 ... and also the Contract by and between United States Investment Company, Ltd and to Watch Tower Bible Society, dated January 10, 1916, and recorded December 13, 1917. And also the Indenture from Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society to North Side Catholic Cemetery, dated December 13, 1917, and recorded January 18, 1918.
On the Masonic property survey was a small rectangular area clear on the other side of the Mason's Lodge from Russell's gravesite that has been deemed "not to be included in the assessment" Hmmm.... 130x135 feet? Looked like it could easily be those dimensions...
SECOND ROSEMONT CEMETERY
This was a little trickier. We went back as far as 1921 before I became saturated.
At one time, the cemetery was two parcels and still is (sort of - the Lot and Block Numbers are 217-H-10 (01) and 217-H-10 (02)) and was owned by John Schweiger.
Upon his death, his executrix, Mary Schweiger released both parcels. One appears to be a normal sale from John Schweiger's estate to Rosemont, Mount Hope and Evergreen United Cemeteries for $18,000 on July 30, 1919. This parcel appears to have been acquired from Catherine A. Lebauda, by deed dated August 1909. The second parcel is different. One paragraph reads,
"THAT, whereas, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society... by Indenture dated March 12, 1918, ...did grant and convey unto the said John Schweiger all the residue of a certain tract of land, situate in the said Township of Ross, containing 12 acres, more or less and excepting and reserving therefrom and thereout the following lots or tracts of land... designated as burial lots for the members of the said Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society; ..."
then further down the page...
"Excepting and reserving therefrom and thereout a tract containing 77.41 acres, conveyed by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society to the North Side Catholic Cemetery by deed dated December 13, 1917... The remaining portion of said tract and the lands hereby conveyed, contain 12 acres, more or less.
SUBJECT however, to all of the exceptions, reservations and restrictions as set forth in deed from the Watch Tower bible and Tract Society to the said John Schweiger, dated March 12, 1918...""
HUGE SIGH....
I'm tired of typing.
I really wish I knew how to post jpg images on my iMac. You guys could analyze it yourselves.... If anyone knows how, send me a message!
what is in the background?????.
now read what was released and given to all convention attenders about the building of his gravesite, about what's inside it, and about who owns all the land.
from the book called souvenir report of the bible student's convention jan. 2-5, 1919 link:.
To all...
I should have previous parcel ownership information over the next couple of days for the cemetery and the land the lodge was built upon.
what is in the background?????.
now read what was released and given to all convention attenders about the building of his gravesite, about what's inside it, and about who owns all the land.
from the book called souvenir report of the bible student's convention jan. 2-5, 1919 link:.
In one conversation with a JW about using God's personal name I noted that I know my mother's name but out of respect, I certainly wouldn't go around calling her by that name. Correlatively, I know President Obama's name, but I certainly wouldn't call him Barack unless given permission. Using a person's first name doesn't make me any more familiar with them than using their prefix (Mr, Ms, Miss, Dr etc) and last name.
I find it very arrogant for one to tell me that you know the Creator of the Universe better because of this first name basis. Then, I've explained, since they're using a name that WT literature says was created by a Roman Catholic monk, it makes it even more insulting to Him.
I've even asked... "why don't you just call him Benjamin?"
See why I'm always in trouble???? My mouth won't stop running.
i think i get that this meeting on october 6 was by invitation only.
if i asked a jw to research who the f&ds was, i'm assuming that they'd tell me it is the annointed and maybe even provide me with wt literature from that cd explaining this.
...or would they already know about the change?
Thanks, Flipper. I'm disappointed that this won't jar anybody... *sigh*
Seems like the WT has pre-planned my every move.
what is in the background?????.
now read what was released and given to all convention attenders about the building of his gravesite, about what's inside it, and about who owns all the land.
from the book called souvenir report of the bible student's convention jan. 2-5, 1919 link:.
EoM: To find out where the name "Jehovah" came from, you might want to look up Raymundus Martini, Roman Catholic Monk.
As for the Mason/Russell link, I'm thinking that I could meander over to the Recorder of Deeds building across the street from my office and find out who owned the land the Mason building was built upon before it was sold to the Mason's. I truly suspect it was a Mason. It was too much land sold for too cheap a price.
If I knew how to post screenshots using an iMac, I'd show you what I have access to in a heartbeat.
*Edited to remove identifying info for possible future lurkers I try to drive to this site...*
i think i get that this meeting on october 6 was by invitation only.
if i asked a jw to research who the f&ds was, i'm assuming that they'd tell me it is the annointed and maybe even provide me with wt literature from that cd explaining this.
...or would they already know about the change?
How many are invited?
i think i get that this meeting on october 6 was by invitation only.
if i asked a jw to research who the f&ds was, i'm assuming that they'd tell me it is the annointed and maybe even provide me with wt literature from that cd explaining this.
...or would they already know about the change?
I think I get that this meeting on October 6 was by invitation only.
If I asked a JW to research who the F&DS was, I'm assuming that they'd tell me it is the annointed and maybe even provide me with WT literature from that CD explaining this.
...or would they already know about the change?
I guess what I'm asking is, if I could get them to research the topic, the information would be fresh in their minds so that when they get the new info, they may be more apt to hear.
When or how will this be announced?
i'm dating a jw.
i have asked him several questions that would be categorized as "thinking" questions and i knew he'd have a tough time finding answers.
whenever i wouldn't get an answer to 3-5, i was moving on to the next 3-5. over a year's time, just about all have gone unanswered... just dropped... non-existent at this point.
No Mr, I'm not. Yes, I'm dealing with the classic "West Side Story" love story.... :) OH, and I feel like I have to say this... I won't be having kids by him. Factory is shut down so there won't be any casualties of a divorce. *grin*
I seem to be tripping upon JWs like crazy in the last year. Some are lifetime friends... ("You were raised as a JW!?!?!?), some I work with (who never identified themselves as such but now I recognize the signature NWT), and some have come to my door.
Is God giving me opportunities to wake them up? I dunno... maybe I'M the one just now waking up. LOL
I come here to try to understand THEM. This site has helped me tremendously and I'm very thankful for all of you.
