Posts by NeverKnew

19

Big Shake-Up Among Jehovah's Witnesses

by JW GoneBad in

i heard that there was a recent (january 2013) big shake up on the west coast in orange california.

i think it is a kingdom hall on taft street in orange that has a double hall.

anyway, i heard that there were 10 to 15 disfellowshiped, others given public reproof and several congregations broken up and new conregations started as a result.

PDF of Elder's letter

by NeverKnew in

with respect to the elimination or removal of "old" literature - are there any pdfs of any of these letters?.

i read somewhere that directives have been issued over the years which contributes to the reason that older publications cannot be found in the kingdom halls.

.

NeverKnew

Atlantis I'm gonna marry you!

uh... well, if I break up with the JW I've fallen in love with...

....and you're not married and wealthy... with no heirs. *cough-cough*

oh wait.. I hope you're a guy.

I'm kinda old - I gotta be specific these days.

6

PDF of Elder's letter

by NeverKnew in

with respect to the elimination or removal of "old" literature - are there any pdfs of any of these letters?.

i read somewhere that directives have been issued over the years which contributes to the reason that older publications cannot be found in the kingdom halls.

.

NeverKnew

With respect to the elimination or removal of "old" literature - Are there any pdfs of any of these letters?

I read somewhere that directives have been issued over the years which contributes to the reason that older publications cannot be found in the Kingdom Halls.

33

Rosemont Cemetery-Masonic Temple-Catholic Church CONNECTED

by NeverKnew in

yes, by land transfers - connected.. .

first - masonic hall property.

the parcel now known as the land owned by the mason's appears to have been consolidated some time ago to form one huge parcel.

NeverKnew

Also, let me make myself clear, I am not saying that there is some kind of conspiratorial web that joins them all together. These real estate parcels just hysterically links them all together.

IMO, I think the Mason's simply bought a large parcel of land for a GREAT price to erect a hall on that happened to be owned by the Catholics with a little chunk owned by the WTS. Just trying to understand why the WTS has held on to it. What's in it for them?

33

Rosemont Cemetery-Masonic Temple-Catholic Church CONNECTED

by NeverKnew in

yes, by land transfers - connected.. .

first - masonic hall property.

the parcel now known as the land owned by the mason's appears to have been consolidated some time ago to form one huge parcel.

NeverKnew

This saga gets stranger and stranger...

I went out to the section of the Mason's property where the cemetery owned by the Watchtower is located and unfortunately, it was covered with snow so I may not have seen as many gravesites as there may have been.

(I MUST ADD THAT THIS WAS WITH PERMISSION. THERE ARE NO TRESSPASSING SIGNS THAT SURROUND THE CEMETERY BUT THEY ARE POSTED BY THE OWNER OF THE ADJOINED PROPERTY.) The adjoined property owner believed the cemetery contained the remains of African-American soldiers.

I took pictures of the gravesites I could see and except for the women, they appeared to ALL have been ...military soldiers?!? I am also looking for an ancestor who may have been caught up in the WT movement and to my knowledge, he was never in the military.

WHY would the WTS own a burial plot in its own name (as opposed to a front name such as "United Cemeteries") containing African-American soldiers? Is "United Cemeteries" still owned by the WTS? If so, you guys have a lot more real estate to talk about! *grin*

I can't vouch for the validity of this site but I certainly have a copy of a deed recorded in 1922 validating the claims about the three cemeteries being owned by the WTS! (http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/russell.html)

I have work to do tonight so I'm not ignoring anyone if they have something to add... this stuff is giving me a headache.

Thanks Miz and Sunny!

62

My apologies to everyone on this board (please read).

by Joliette in

jw
friends

about a month ago, i wrote a post about a sister that keeps coming to my apartment giving me watchtowers.

i called her an older sister.

she is in her late 50's.

NeverKnew

Honey, anyone on this board who has children under 25 has been told, "well, you're kinda old." LOL

We held the same notion at your age!

5

Rutherford's Burial Site

by NeverKnew in

the society attempted to bury rutherford at beth sarim, then beth shan and those requests were denied by the planning commission of san deigo.

i've read that rutherford's remains were then shipped to new york, but where did they land?

where is his burial site?

NeverKnew

5

Rutherford's Burial Site

by NeverKnew in

the society attempted to bury rutherford at beth sarim, then beth shan and those requests were denied by the planning commission of san deigo.

i've read that rutherford's remains were then shipped to new york, but where did they land?

where is his burial site?

NeverKnew

GOOD MORNING, CLARITY! :)

I've read quite a bit, but interestingly, I've found nothing that specifically states where he was buried. I've read about unmarked graves and fires that destroyed records of the unmarked graves (idiots), a woman who claims to have seen the grave (if it's unmarked, then how'd she know?), and that there were only 4 people in attendance (uh, YOU BURY YOUR PRESIDENT AT YOUR OFFICE HEADQUARTERS AND ONLY FOUR PEOPLE ATTEND???).

I'm wondering if anyone has a collective set of WT quotes that cryptically mention Rutherford's mysterious rat death and burial. I'm making a set (as best I can...)

Many of you have more access to information. As a non-JW, I'm limited to the internet.

5

Rutherford's Burial Site

by NeverKnew in

the society attempted to bury rutherford at beth sarim, then beth shan and those requests were denied by the planning commission of san deigo.

i've read that rutherford's remains were then shipped to new york, but where did they land?

where is his burial site?

NeverKnew

The society attempted to bury Rutherford at Beth Sarim, then Beth Shan and those requests were denied by the Planning Commission of San Deigo. I've read that Rutherford's remains were then shipped to New York, but where did they land? Where is his burial site? Shouldn't there have been a graveside ceremony?

28

Christian questions to ask current JWs

by Christ Alone in

here are some questions that i thought would be interesting to ask a jw if they were open to a free and open discussion.

this assumes a christian worldview that the bible is the word of god.

if you have any others, please post them!

NeverKnew

NOTSUREWHERETOGO: THANKS! I used that as an olive branch for a poor JW who looked like he had been used as a punching bag the night before!

Here's a few more!

If failing to forgive is acknowledged by Paul as one of Satan's schemes (2 Cor 2:11), what's up with the practice of disfellowshipping?
There are committees of oversight called Judicial Conduct Committees for judges. Do you have the same for judicial committees that fail to act in accordance with the Scriptures? If not, why not? OH! Because you have a legal department to determine wrongness - sorry... forgot about that. Worldly judges need oversight, Elders have the WTBTS LEGAL EAGLES..
Literature such as the "Aid to Bible Understanding" acknowledge that the name "Jehovah" was made up in 1270 by a Roman Catholic monk so why does your organization continue to perpetuate a lie of "Jehovah" being God's personal name when they know it's not?
According to WT theology, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a host of other prophets are going to be resurrected and live on Earth. Are you telling me that the annointed in YOUR organization, folks who you see partaking in your congregations, are MORE WORTHY to be with God than HIS OWN SELF-SELECTED PROPHETS???

The last two send me reeling.