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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  NeverKnew

  ....and please forgive me for using the word "Memorial."

  The connotation of that word in JWland was just brought to my attention and I can't change the title of the post. :-(

  I think you all would be able to recognize my sincere intent.
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  Eric Reeder's Memorial?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen the insulting obituary and like all of you, i'm blown away.. i've also seen several threads of individuals crying out for an opportunity to meet with others on this board.

  maybe it's time to recognize the need for an assembly (if you will) to foster a familial relationship for those on this board!.

  what if a memorial were planned, in eric's honor of course, for a weekend next september in north carolina?

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  eeeks.... sorry. I forgot about that all-important event of the JWs so forgive me.

  I wonder if I can change the title. *sigh*
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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  NeverKnew

  Hi, all... It'd be nice if something positive could come out of this. Please consider this idea... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/239225/1/Eric-Reeders-Memorial I'm starting to feel better just considering this as an opportunity. I know many may not be there yet and I completely understand, but I'd certainly be willing to contribute in any way I can if it makes sense.
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  Eric Reeder's Memorial?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen the insulting obituary and like all of you, i'm blown away.. i've also seen several threads of individuals crying out for an opportunity to meet with others on this board.

  maybe it's time to recognize the need for an assembly (if you will) to foster a familial relationship for those on this board!.

  what if a memorial were planned, in eric's honor of course, for a weekend next september in north carolina?

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  NeverKnew

  I wonder how big of a gathering it could be?!?

  Should it be called a "Memorial" (which sometimes connotes sadness and is usually ONLY about the individual) or an "Assembly" in Eric's honor (which would be sending a strong message to the Society while at the same time respecting that which Eric lost).

  You wouldn't be limited to these two words of course, but I think the name of the gathering is important.

  What's the goal?
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  "Safeguard Your Mind" assembly targeting apostate thinking

  by promised_presence in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently attended the second day of the 2 day assembly for safeguarding your mind.

  the first talk was entitled "feed your mind at jehovah's table".

  the first portion of this talk specifically targeted apostates warning members to not listen to them "even if they were once strong in the truth or had great responsiblity in the congregation".

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  NeverKnew

  But what about...

  Luke 21:8

  New International Version (NIV)

  8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.

  Oh I'm sorry.... I must be relying too heavily on my own understanding of the HOLY BIBLE.
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  Eric Reeder's Memorial?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen the insulting obituary and like all of you, i'm blown away.. i've also seen several threads of individuals crying out for an opportunity to meet with others on this board.

  maybe it's time to recognize the need for an assembly (if you will) to foster a familial relationship for those on this board!.

  what if a memorial were planned, in eric's honor of course, for a weekend next september in north carolina?

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  NeverKnew

  I've seen the insulting obituary and like all of you, I'm blown away.

  I've also seen SEVERAL threads of individuals crying out for an opportunity to meet with others on this board. Maybe it's time to recognize the need for an Assembly (if you will) to foster a familial relationship for those on this board!

  What if a memorial were planned, in Eric's honor of course, for a weekend next September in North Carolina? I'm part of the community outside of the JW world and I don't live anywhere near North Carolina but I'll tell ya' what - I'D FLY ANYWHERE TO HONOR HIM.

  A memorial notice next year that would sincerely honor him could be printed in the paper in his home town inviting those who loved him in the community to join the service.

  Any thoughts?
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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  NeverKnew

  Admittedly in anger, I kept thinking about his immediate family who were forced, by Watchtower doctrine, to shun him. This seemed to have been the most painful for him. Help me understand something here.

  Would an event such as this make the surviving JWs think about the organization's policy and start to ask questions now that THEY have to feel the pain?

  Please say yes. Surely one couldn't leave this with any feeling other than bitterness.
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  Are JW's REALLY the cause of people committing suicide?

  by scotoma in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  blame the cult.

  blame the cult.

  blame the cult.. suicide is a very complicated behavior.. mental health professionals caution against assigning blame when people kill themselves.. being disfellowshipped is a life stress and some people are not equipped mentally to handle it.

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  NeverKnew

  ...wow
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  Schizophrenia

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  while doing some personal research on the subject i came across this.

  basically in the jungian world it is discribed as an overpowering of ego by the unconsciousness.

  "if the human race survives, future men will, i suspect, look back on our enlightened epoch as a veritable age of darkness... they will see that what was considered 'schizophrenic' was one of the forms in which, often through quite ordinary people, the light began to break into our all-too-closed minds.".

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  NeverKnew

  I have an uncle who has been diagnosed as bipolar and schizophrenic. He is in his mid 70s. He was hospitalized recently.

  When I visit, sometimes we just sit with each other and say nothing. It's painful to not know what's in his mind as we sit. The other day, he looked at me with a big toothless grin as if to say, "Thank you for being beside me." I returned a huge grin feeling good that we connected. As his smile faded, he looked at me quizzically and asked, "Why are your eyes so sad?"

  Even in his tortured and drugged state, he seems to be able to see through people when they have his attention.

  I thought grandiosity was a characteristic of the sickness. He leans towards thinking that he's an "original gangster" and can beat ANYone up when he misses a few pills. He forgets he's darn near 100....
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  You are going to be thrilled!!!!

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is an online version of a news article regarding a child porn arrest from a newspaper.

  the article is not the point and the defendant is not a jw.

  but take a look at the related articles!!!!.

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  NeverKnew

  New development. Talk about timing.

  I sent the link then came back to JWN and opened the tragic news about Oompa being gone. The JW I sent it to calls me while I'm in a teary eyed state. He stated that he wanted to comment on the links. He could hear my sadness in my voice, I know. I told him I just couldn't talk about anything JW-related. I'm on the phone blowing my darn nose. He was quiet.

  I'm sorry... I just didn't give a crap about his rebuttal or whatever he was going to give me. I'm just sick.

  He asked why I was upset and I must've sounded nuts. I told him I had just learned that a distant "friend" who had been reaching out for help may have committed suicide. I told him I had never met the guy in person, but that I did have access to him and I wish I could have done something.

  Knowing there's something wrong, he'll go back to BOTH topics within the week. Maybe it'll be an opportunity to get him to hear me..... I may need help to understand what thinking questions might be most effective.

  Right now, I'm going along the lines of

  Do you know personally know anyone who has committed suicide? Were they JWs?

  What about sexual abuse of children or even women?

  Right now, emotionally, I can't concentrate.