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  Odd choice of words

  by Nevuela in

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  why is it that when a jw gives someone a magazine, they use the word "place" instead of "give"?

  as in "i placed a magazine with him".

  and why do regular door-to-door jws of no special rank refer to themselves as publishers?

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  HereIgo

  It could all a subtle form of brainwashing. If not, then it's probably just organizational jargon. I don't think too many jw's give it much thought.
  
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  Were you aware of the shunning policy when becoming a JW

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  for those who became jws, were you fully aware of the societys cruel shunning policy whilst studying?

  i absolutely had no idea such a policy existed until years later.

  it really only hit home when reading the horrendous stories on the internet around 2002. .

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  I was baptized at age 16 and was absolutely clueless to the shunning arrangement and a host of other illogical and senseless man-made rules. I heard the team "disfellowshipped" every now and then but didn't know too much about it. As I got older, the practice was the main reason why I left the org. I refused to believe it was something a true Christian would participate in.
  
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  My mom contacted me last night...

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
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  as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.

  she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.

  she found me on facebook.

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  Scully, good point, forgot all about that
  
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  My mom contacted me last night...

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.

  she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.

  she found me on facebook.

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  Heaven, I agree, the society must really be pushing that message strongly for her to reach out to me out of the blue, same for your cousin.
  
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  My mom contacted me last night...

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.

  she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.

  she found me on facebook.

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  HereIgo

  As I have revealed in other threads my mother and I havent talked in over 2 years. She has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to Jehovah. She found me on Facebook. At first it was normal chit chat, she didnt even know she had a new grandchild. The conversation quickly shifted to "son, i know you don't want to hear this, but the end is very near, there isnt much time left."

  I replied:

  Mom, when someone can explain to me why there has been over a thousand child abuse cases in Australia alone that have not been reported to authorities. When someone can explain why Geoffrey Jackson, member of the governing body denied his own faith during ARC questioning and stated that it would be presumptuous to assume that jws are God's only channel, but yet that is what is preached to millions of people by jws. When someone can explain why the end was predicted in 1914, 1925 and 1975 and why Beth Sarim was built in San Diego in 1925 to accommodate the princes of old then secretely sold by the society when the end didnt come. When someone can explain why the society changed their stance on blood and countless people died in the process believing that they were following God's orders. Maybe then, I would consider it. There are alot of dark things behind the scenes of the organization that you probably dont want to talk about. I doubt anyone could or would even want to answer these questions to my satisfaction.

  She replied:

  "It is clear how you feel. All of your questions could be answered if you put Jehovah to the test, but I cant convince you, you have to allow it, we will talk soon."

  Did I strike a nerve? Thoughts? Was there a recent study article written about reaching out to "inactive" ones?
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  Problems with the JW's noted for myself and others.

  by Alostpuppydog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  below is just a list that i will continue to reference for myself while defending myself against the jw's when the time comes, which is pretty much every day.

  nevertheless, if you would like to continue on with the list i have provided feel free, or if you would like to read it feel free as well!

  i will continue to post more as i learn more and or remember stuff i forgot to post originally and hope this can help anyone else that is feeling similar to me.. 1.beards, get over it cry babies.

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  Good points!, I'd like to add to the list:

  Unscriptural Disfellowshipping arrangement

  Lack of love

  Politics in order to move up in the congregation and obtain titles
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  Your work is not in vain! Thank You!

  by de-opresso-liber in

  1. jw
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  been lurking since early this year.

  there are many of us out there (at least in this area, central u.s.) who are waking up and crossing the line to talk to each other about it.

  in our area, several elders, ministerial servants and pioneers are actively and openly sharing info with each other daily.

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  Welcome!

  It is great to see ones wake up and begin living their lives
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  Thanksgiving??

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
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  with thanksgiving around the corner, i thought it would be interesting to hear how you, your family or other jw's you knew handled/celebrated thanksgiving.

  it seems to me that most jw's view it as harmless and unofficially celebrate it the day before or the day after the actual holiday.

  growing up, my mother would host a dinner the day after thanksgiving and used the excuse " well the traditional food for the dinner is discounted at this time, might as well have a dinner".

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  With thanksgiving around the corner, I thought it would be interesting to hear how you, your family or other JW's you knew handled/celebrated thanksgiving. It seems to me that most JW's view it as harmless and unofficially celebrate it the day before or the day after the actual holiday. Growing up, my mother would host a dinner the day after thanksgiving and used the excuse " well the traditional food for the dinner is discounted at this time, might as well have a dinner". I am sure some of the die-hards wouldn't have any type of thanksgiving dinner even close to the holiday date. When I was a JW, no one ever really talked about the subject. Thoughts?
  
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  1 Step Forward and 3 Steps Back: Trying to Get My Mom to See 'The Light' (Oh the Irony!)

  by Sorry in

  1. watchtower
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  recently, my mother's been hounding me to do personal study (i think she's slowly realizing i'm becoming disillusioned with the organization and is trying to reign me back in).

  i don't know what made me do this, but i decided to test the waters by challenging 'new light'.

  she asked me what i learned in personal study, so i brought up organ transplants and the wt flip floppy stance on them (thanks jwfacts!).

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  It is funny how your family and most jw's appreciate the fact that people who sin are "held accountable". My family also thinks this way. The question is, who is going to hold the GB accountable for their many flip flops??? " they are imperfect men". I cant tell you how many times I have heard that excuse. Why do they get a pass for being imperfect when EVERYONE on this earth is imperfect? how is imperfection a valid excuse to be a false prophet? You are on the right track, just continue to observe them and build a case. I am sure your family will realize your points eventually. My mother is also a die hard jw and every time she pressured me into telling her how I feel about the org, during the convo, she would say she doesn't want to talk about it anymore. This made me realize my points were hitting a nerve. My advice would be to keep it simple and bring out things like the Australian royal commission etc, it would be interesting to see how they justify that. Good luck
  
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  Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

  it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

  it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

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  Yes, I remember an elderly elder commenting how inappropriate it was for a single brother and single sister to walk through the parking lot together after the meeting, even innocent chit chatting. Keep in mind this is broad daylight roughly, 1 pm! smh..ridiculous