if you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.
to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.
but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.
Jules,
I think its normal for Ex JWs to go through this thought process. After all, we were indoctrinated into a cult and brainwashed. In my opinion, those thoughts do fade eventually. I left 6 years ago and the first year was rough, but over time, I no longer had those thoughts. These days, the WT organization 100% no longer have a hold on me. However, every one is different. I personally though, could no longer live a lie, its worse than being shunned in my opinion.
did you have a plan to leave the organization?
i did.
it took a couple of years but we did leave and never had a desire to go back!.
Yes, I basically knew that I would fade by moving across town and ignore phone calls. It could have been done a little cleaner but looking back, it was a clean fade for a 21 year old and I wouldn't change a thing.
i had an elder tell me once i was grieving holy spirit but i’m not sure how this dickhead knew..
I was always told by ignoring scriptural counsel, then one could potentially fall into a course of "sin", thus "grieving the holy spirit." uggh...WT phrases make me cringe.
what is the youngest you have seen someone baptised?
i recall seeing a 9 yo girl baptised..
5 years old! 2001 District convention in San Diego. At the time it was encouraging, now the thought of it makes me cringe.
i have been sneakily looking at this forum, almost every day, ever since it began!
it has taken me till now to actually register and contribute.
(actually i did register with a different name in the beginning but never commented).. i am a pimo elder with a fairly long history of senior "positions" in the organization.
Hello Brother,
its always nice to have an active Elder on here. Your perspective and insight is valuable. Welcome! we are here to help.
i have heard of this happening before, but how often?
its pretty rare it seems.
i have often wondered if the elders would go this route with me since they knew i was actively sinning, but as far as i know, no jc was ever formed.
Hey Pale, I personally am definitely not too concerned with it as I really don't have anything to lose since my family is shunning me regardless. The amount of control they have over people is interesting for sure though.
i have heard of this happening before, but how often?
its pretty rare it seems.
i have often wondered if the elders would go this route with me since they knew i was actively sinning, but as far as i know, no jc was ever formed.
in my comedy i am playing around with being a jw spokesman justifying the ridiculous things in the publications, website, letters and talks by governing body members.. can you give me some scandals please?.
to start off with un ngo membership.... thanks.
paul.
if watchtower has no reason to df ones.
they have just become inactive.
do you all think wt will begin a witch hunt (df'ing) for these inactive ones?
I am personally in that position. I faded and was never DF or DA. I just faded away and the bros are aware of my doubts and stance on the WT. They don't seem too concerned about me at this time,. I guess it could depend on the particular body of elders, but I doubt they would all of a sudden pursue inactive ones.
do any of the current governing body have academic qualifications?.
thanks.
paul.
Yes, they graduated from the most prestigious school of all, the theocratic ministry school!!
