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Very Bad Apologetics For Honest Seekers
by AlanF ingod had no beginning, so god did not need to be made.. .
if our local space-time universe is uncreated, then of course it is meaningless to ask who created it.
of course, everything that had a beginning had a beginner.
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Family tragedy.........HappyDad
by HappyDad ingot a phone call from my daughter who lives in florida a couple of hours ago.
her significant other who i chose to call my son-in-law (because he is the best thing to ever happen to her) got a phone call that his 6 year old daughter was killed in an auto accident near lake placid, florida and his 5 year old son is in very critical condition.
the ex wife is also critical.
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Happydad,
I hope the best for all concerned. I hate to hear news like this; it has to be ripping your heart out. Thanks for letting us share your pain in this. It’s what we do best.
Take care buddy,
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Ballistic,
I thought you were going to say you just discovered Viagra.
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Greatest Storm in History Coming Today
by Amazing1914 inhurricane katrina is heading for new orleans, la, and will hit it by this afternoon.
it is the largest hurricane known in history.
the entire storm range covers more than 50% of the gulf of mexico.
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***IN THE PROCESS OF AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE UNKNOWN.***
Out,
Pack light and make sure you do your own packing. Also make sure no one else handles your luggage between home and the ticket counter. Baggage is something you need to be aware of, but you don’t need to have it weigh you down.
Just as suggestion.
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Greatest Storm in History Coming Today
by Amazing1914 inhurricane katrina is heading for new orleans, la, and will hit it by this afternoon.
it is the largest hurricane known in history.
the entire storm range covers more than 50% of the gulf of mexico.
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***I tend to disappoint people because I won't or can't put myself into a specific Christian box.***
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Greatest Storm in History Coming Today
by Amazing1914 inhurricane katrina is heading for new orleans, la, and will hit it by this afternoon.
it is the largest hurricane known in history.
the entire storm range covers more than 50% of the gulf of mexico.
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Jeffcake,
Lately, saying you’re a Christian doesn’t seem to be as all encompassing as it use to be. Not in the sense of it being totally negative but more in the sense of it not being precisely exclusive to any one specific ideology except there was a guy who you call Christ involved in your belief system. Same goes with someone saying they are Muslim and a guy named Mohamed.
Both Christian and Muslim religions are broken down to so many sects and sub sects the only real understanding of what an individual really believes is to sit them down and ask them. Saying you’re a Christian leaves the one you are saying it to open to a huge variety of possible implications. Remember, the Aryan Nation as well as the KKK call themselves Christian organizations.
It’s less complex for us non-believers. We can just say we are not a part of any religions ideology or group. Some non-believers don’t believe in any particular religious thought because they do not know anything about anything. Then there are the rest of us.
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*** Someone recently posted an account of the Australian kingdom hall bombing in which only one brother died. The story is now an urban legend based on a true story, a story which is told of how everyone looked down at their bibles at the right moment and "god" protected them.***
Ballistic,
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Greatest Storm in History Coming Today
by Amazing1914 inhurricane katrina is heading for new orleans, la, and will hit it by this afternoon.
it is the largest hurricane known in history.
the entire storm range covers more than 50% of the gulf of mexico.
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***Knock out religion and you get the nastiness of unguiged nature and accidental evolution.***
I think you meant, “unguided nature” which is totally a matter of opinion. Same goes with accidental evolution.
If you see it as nasty, I think that maybe that is how you want to see it or have been told to see it. One can see a hurricane as a “nasty” force of nature or they can see it as a force from god for some mysterious higher purpose he/she/it may have.
Others may see it scientifically and say, it’s the result of ocean current activity, fluctuations of water and air temperature and or melting polar ice cap that is influencing them all.
Like most things attributed to god, if it turns out as a benefit for an individual, they say god heard their prayers and saved them from a negative outcome. If it turns out badly, they say it must have been god’s purpose to do what he did and we don’t understand his reasons for doing things all the time.
A Christian could have two of their children involved in the same school bus crash. They both end up in the hospital clinging to life. The parents pray for both if them equally. One dies and one lives. Is that result due to god hearing their parents prayers but choose to take one of the children and let the other one live? Or, do things like the extent of injury that made one live and one die due to each child’s decision about where to sit on the bus influence the different outcomes? What makes more rational sense?
Thinking all things are directly influence by god’s hand will help a person rationalize anything, keep them from having to think too deeply or too much and help them, sleep better at night.
Thinking that we are here all alone and things happen with or without any supreme beings influence forces us to learn about and try to understand what makes certain things tic.
A lot of it breaks down to how much we want to thoroughly investigate certain things in life. Believe it is all in god’s hands and he will do as he pleases, most of our thinking or investigating work is done for us. There is no need to think, only accept.
I think religion and the concept of any of the more popular gods is a good thing for some people. For some, it helps them do good things to help other people in their god’s name.
Of course, depending on how they interpret their particular religious sects take on things, doing good in gods name can range from helping the poor and needy, to burning crosses on peoples front lawns and blowing up choo-hoo trains full of un-believers.
Religion only makes the world make sense to those who don’t take the time to fully investigate other options and consider their possibilities with an open mind. With out religion and it’s influence on how people think, a hurricane, flood, volcano eruption, or meteorite hitting planets would still happen. The only thing that would change is how they are explained and understood.
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You Won't Believe....
by RichieRich ini don't have much time but... .
i met with the elders, and they restored all my priviledges!!!!.
haha!!!
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Brenda,
If he really is not who he says he is, which I would be surprised as hell if he is not, his posts are great fun to read. If he is some kind of imposter, his “rent a fat kid” concept is priceless.
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Greatest Storm in History Coming Today
by Amazing1914 inhurricane katrina is heading for new orleans, la, and will hit it by this afternoon.
it is the largest hurricane known in history.
the entire storm range covers more than 50% of the gulf of mexico.
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***Just so you know, I am Christian and accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. I just don't know how to answer with convincing arguments these issues for myself or others.***
Jim,
As I have said to several people like yourself whom I respect and who come to this board to share their thoughts, "you’re a smart guy, you will figure it out".
Your open and intelligent mind is a very strong tool, even more than you may think. You are closer than you know.
Take care,
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You Won't Believe....
by RichieRich ini don't have much time but... .
i met with the elders, and they restored all my priviledges!!!!.
haha!!!
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***Why do I need to prove who I am? Either I really am a 17 year old boy fighting his way out of the cult, or I am one hell of a fiction writer with acess to a fat kid to take pictures of and post on the internet.***
Richie,
You are one twisted little pimple popper. This thread is hilarious. You seem to have a great attitude about yourself and your situation.
Your level of psychological security within yourself puts a lot of us older evil exJWs who are dealing with trying to rinse out our one time brainwashed minds to shame.
With that said, I can understand Steve’s reluctance to believe you are only 17. You seem to, in most of what you say, have confidence far beyond your years.
If letting you walk up and down an isle with a microphone on a stick is considered a “privilege” to be taken away or restored depending upon your spiritual maturity, you have noting to be worried about. Such mindless power is just a great example of their simple little minds and the cult that controls them. If they eventually tell you that you are now in charge of putting the toilet paper roll on the holder in the men’s bathroom, they are grooming you for the next elder spot and you should run like hell.
Dave