Posts by seven006

the purpose of this post is not..let me repeat not to start a flame war, so as my mother use to tell me, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

ok so it doesn't have to be nice but please try and keep it civil.

Why people think they need to define another human being by who they choose to love or what they choose to do with mutual consent behind the privacy of their bedroom door is beyond me. Who you choose to love and who you choose to have in your life is no one else's business. I believe in human rights plain and simple. This "them" and "us" mentality is what has cause the majority of problems through out history. It is the main reason I choose not to vote or associate myself with any religious or political organization that feels they have to label themselves and others so onlookers can see that proverbial dividing line that says they are better than those on the other side of the line.

I see you as a kind, considerate, and compassionate human. If others can't see that then they just are not looking and probably will never see it. Understanding has limited vision through the eyes of Ignorance.

I think you can see where friday is coming from. The Nazi ignorant superior thinking mentality will never die.
Unfortunately ignorant red necks have as much right to live as snakes and spiders.

Your a good man JJ and I would be honored to call you a friend.

Dave

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message for seven006

by jonjonsimons in

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friends

dave,.

just checking to see if today is going better for you than yesterday.

i know your dealing with some tough issues right now.

seven006

Actually this is embarrassing for me because I am definitely not the kind of guy that talks about his problems, especially on an open forum like this.

I didn't realize that a few sarcastically made comments about some things I was feeling and thinking would result in this kind of thread. I always have and probably always will figure out my own problems but having those who care enough about another person like this kind of blows me away. I got out of bed and came back to delete my last post because I was very uncomfortable saying all the things I said but it was too late.

I guess not having any family to talk to you get use to figuring things out yourself. I'm just hoping this thread gets buried back into the distant pages quickly so I can get back to cracking jokes and just having fun. I don't mean to sound ungrateful but I don't handle help very well and for most of my adult life I have always thought I didn't need any help. I was always the one helping others out. This is just a little weird for me. I really am fine now, I was just having a bad day and I exploded a little. I don't know what else to say but thank you. You people amaze me.

Dave

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message for seven006

by jonjonsimons in

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friends

dave,.

just checking to see if today is going better for you than yesterday.

i know your dealing with some tough issues right now.

seven006

Guys, guys, guys, I haven't pulled the trigger yet and I don't plan to for quite a while. I'm really OK. I'm just having a bad week and I made the mistake of making one serious post and it took a few people off guard. I will get back to my old sarcastic self in a few days.

Tina, Think, and Francoise, thank you for your kindness I appreciate it a lot and for people that I don't know very well I am
honored and touched that you cared enough to post your concern. I'm really OK, honest. You are making it hard to make any further sarcastic posts when I jump into a thread where you guys are playing little bad apostates. Thank you again.

Wasa, I appreciate you staying sarcastic and making people think I have some kind of perverted interest in seeing you naked. Iv told you before I have no desire to do that. Why ruin the perfectly mediocre friendship we have by forcing me to envision you naked? Seriously thank you for being there for me, I do know you are a sweetheart whether you like hearing it from me or not. Again, I am fine I'm just dealing with the tremendous amount of shit that makes up my wonderful life.

Catwoman, thank you for the phone call. You made mine and my sons night. He told his buddy that I was talking to someone in Australia and that I talk to people about business from all over the world all the time and his little skateboard buddy was quite impressed. You made me look good to the neighborhood cat killer. I am really holding it together and I am going to be just fine. I should have never chewed Real Elder out and cause this fuss. I will keep to my joking around and playing the fool, it's a lot more fun than being serious. You know me, always joking and never showing any emotion, I have become a master at it. Thanks again for the call and tell Wolf it was great talking to him. It will be great when you guys finally get to Oregon in a few mounts and I can give you two shit in person. Love you guys.

Alan,
My friend, mentor and hero. Please delete your phone number off this thread before You Know starts calling you in the middle of the night and asks you what you are wearing. I can't have that on my conscience. I'll fill you in on a few high points so that Julie can get some sleep tonight. You know about my grandfather dyeing and my hearing about it three days after the fact. He didn't die the day you guys showed up I found out he died three days before that. I also found out that everyone else in the family had their chance to say good by except for Michelle and I the evil apostates. I just got a card from my Mom saying that she has had two strokes in the last few mounts and the doctors say she will not survive the next one. It is the second letter/note I have received from her in the last 17 years. The last one was to tell me my grandmother died. I don't think Hallmark had this in mind when they started their greeting card company. Maybe they should have a section for "guess who just died" so the JW's could have that Hallmark moment with their DFed relatives.

Same old shit with the new company. The VC investors are still stalling and Pat and I have just about run out of money. It's like pulling teeth to try and get a measly little 40 million out of anybody these days. I had to lay off Nathan today. There is nothing like pulling your own son into your office and telling him he has to turn in his key for a while. Hopefully we'll get that angle investment and I can bring him back soon. It just ripped my heart out to see him leave the office. He even offered to give back his last pay check to help out. I should have never started this new company, it's starting to tare my guts out. Next time I'm just keeping my big mouth shut!

The thing that took me over the edge was the silent lambs post with the out and out lie from the Shit-tower. All I could do is think how they helped destroy Chris's life with their bullshit. I don't want to relive the pain I went through with her but knowing what they did to help destroy that beautiful lady has just brought back all the nights of watching her curled up like a ball hyperventilating in a panic attack with just the mention of the whole thing. I should have never read that post. I stand behind what you guys are doing and I will be happy when it is all out in the open. I wish I could call her and have her add her story to the whole thing but I know what it does to her by just the mention of that horror in her life. Its been over a year and a half since Iv seen her and I still miss her. I am so fucking pissed.

The few other things that got to me are things I don't wish to mention but I will do my best to get them resolved. So in short, my life is pretty much going normal as normal can be for me. I started walking five miles a night the day after you guys left. I am starting to feel better and the walking helps me work out my frustrations. I start hitting the gym on Monday and am going to try and get back to my three hour a day workouts again. It's been way overdue getting my ass back in shape. I know that will get me feeling good in a short amount of time. Your visit was a lot of fun and I am a very grateful person to have friends like you and Julie. All this bullshit will pass and I will get back to the joking good old Dave soon. Betts says hi. Ya, we are still talking. My life was a lot better off when it was completely woman free but I would be a complete idiot to let such a great lady walk out of my life so soon. She liked you and Julie a lot. You know me, I can never have any kind of an uncomplicated relationship with a woman. In my next life I'm definitely coming back as an earth worm.

Thanks Alan, tell Julie I love her and if things come together Abe and I will be seeing you guys this winter.

Dave

PS, I am not in Florida

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message for seven006

by jonjonsimons in

jw
friends

dave,.

just checking to see if today is going better for you than yesterday.

i know your dealing with some tough issues right now.

seven006

Ven,

My life for the last week has just been another end of a long story that never ends.

Give me a call when you are back here and we will meet for that drink.

Take care,

Dave

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Conditional love

by noidea in

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friends

being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

you are only loved if you tow the line.

i only have one thing to say,.

seven006

Real Elder,

First I would like to say that I did not intend to lash out personally at you the way I did and I APOLOGIZE for doing that. Several things have been building up in my life and the post from Silent Lamb's where the WT society blatantly lies about their policy just set me off and I inappropriately took it out on you and a few others. I am one of the most laid back understanding and compassionate people you will ever meet but a situation that I know for a fact is untrue and has effected my life so severely just set me off.

I could write volumes about my feelings and experiences with the JW's but I don't want to waste your time. I have come to realize that JW's are not concerned with the truth about their religion as seen by the eyes of an ex-member. My story would definitely make you think about things you are not ready to think about. As they said in a movie and several times on this board, "you want the truth, you can't handle the truth".

I see that you have a good heart and you are trying to make a little bit of difference in a few peoples life. That is a good thing. Maybe someday you will see the whole picture and you will have to make a few difficult choices. Until then I applaud your present efforts.

Everybody has to do what they have to do.

Again, I apologize if I upset you, I was just having a bad day.

Take care,

Dave

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message for seven006

by jonjonsimons in

jw
friends

dave,.

just checking to see if today is going better for you than yesterday.

i know your dealing with some tough issues right now.

seven006

Jon,

Thank you, I greatly appreciate your concern and your kind thoughts. Right now I'm drowning in an ocean of alligators and crocodiles
and I seemed to have sprung a leak in my life preserver. I think I will be fine once I remember how to float again. I am a survivor.

Thanks again, I think you are definitely one of the good guys.

Dave

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Conditional love

by noidea in

jw
friends

being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

you are only loved if you tow the line.

i only have one thing to say,.

seven006

Thanks guys. I'm sorry but the silent lambs thing and the thread started by Fred Hall has just sent me through the ceiling and I have taken it out on Real Elder and I know he didn't deserve my wrath. I am never like this and I do need to calm down. Thank you very much for your kind words. I think I need to get off the internet now and go for a long walk.

Thanks again, you re all great people

Dave

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Conditional love

by noidea in

jw
friends

being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

you are only loved if you tow the line.

i only have one thing to say,.

seven006

Thanks JJ, I really do appreciate your comment. The more I think about it the more pissed off I am getting. I should get the hell off the internet today before I punch out my monitor. I almost never get this angry.

Dave

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Watchtower PR Statement 8-7-01

by silentlambs in

public affairs office.

for immediate release august7, 2001 .

sexual abuse of children is a terrible crime that can leave lasting emotional scars on its victims.

seven006

Ya, and the checks in the mail and I won't cum on your teddy bear. What a crock.
Do they think every person on the planet outside of the administration floor is completely ignorant?
Now I'm really getting pissed off!

Dave