pomegranate,
<<<Do you think Eve knew snakes did or didn't talk? I mean, do you think she had enough experience after coming out of the side of Adam to know whether animals (some or all) talked or not?>>>
So you are saying Eve had the experience in life as well as the intelligence of a three year old and all of mankind is doomed to die because a brainless naked woman didn't know whether snakes talked or not?
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I do feel stupid now.
<<<Adam surely knew they didn't talk, after all, he named all the animals just before the big fiasco. We know Adam wasn't deceived in that regard. >>>
So Adam knew snakes didn't talk but he ate the fruit because he wanted to get laid instead of living forever? OK, I know guys like that. It's a bit of a stretch but Iv seen some guys that desperate.
>>two naked people in a garden and a piece of fruit.<<
<<<I don't see a problem with this at all.>>>
I'm sure you don't. Logic and reasoning mixed with a tad bit of intelligence is out of grasp for a lot of people. I would like to know what planet you live on. I could go there and be the king of the planet within hours.
<<<Sometimes what looks childish contains the depths of truth. >>>
And sometimes it's just childish. Little kids with gullible minds will believe anything.
<<<Where does it say God was testing? It doesn't. God created man full knowing they'd fail. >>>
So god made defective people on purpose? That's kind of like pregnant woman drinking all day and all night while smoking crack so her child will be born retarded. Yep, that's love in anyone's book!
<<< Are you saying it is wrong for God to tell his creations what to do regardless of how seemingly menial stupid and meaningless the task might be?>>>
No, It seems to work for you!
<<<Of course your wrong. If the issue at hand was that there was one in creation (Satan) that was constantly DEFYING the Creator, and was dividing heavenly creation between himself and God, and that very defiance was going to spread into mankind, the plan is very satisfactory.>>>
Yep, that was one hell of a plan. Why god didn't just kick Satan's ass in the first place is beyond me. He has that pillar of salt ray gun he could have used. But creating an entire race of creatures and killing them to get back at one single bad guy makes all the sense in the world to me. I guess I'm just all screwed up when it comes to the concept of love. Those guys who just crashed into the twin towers in New York must have loved the hell out of Americans.
<<<You are ignorant. I buy into the truth that God knew Adam and Eve were created for the intentional purpose to be contaminated by Satan. Since the whole issue in heaven was how to eliminate Satan, a creature who was originally created without the potential to die, because of his unwavering defiance, God had to develop the means by which to trash the problem. That's where mankind came in. >>>
If this is true, why try and do anything right? It's not about any of us but it's just god's way of wiping the universe out of talking snakes. Do you think that Australian guy "the crocodile hunter" is working for god?
<<<Mankind was created so Christ could come through the creation of corruption Satan created so Satan would eventually be responsible for the death of Christ, one who WAS FORMERLY God in heaven.>>>
So let me get this straight. Jesus was god, Jesus didn't like Satan, Jesus created man to prove that Satan was a bad guy. Then Jesus who was god created Adam and Eve knowing they would fail so that god could blame it all on Satan. Then jesus who was god came to earth as Jesus so he could die for people who were made to screw up in the first place so that he could again make Satan look bad?
Yep, makes sense to me!
<<<God chose to eliminate Satan, it had to be dome because of a BROKEN LAW. If there was no Law, then there could be no penalty.>>>
Sounds like Satan needs a good lawyer!
<<<God gave us a sinful nature as a protection. Adam and Eve plainly shows that WITHOUT God's guidance, men will choose WRONG.>>>
Wait a second here, I thought you said god make Adam and Eve knowing fully before hand that they would screw up. What does any guidance have to do with anything if they were created to fail in the first place? It seems according to your theory that no matter what Adam and Eve chose to do they were predestined to screw up. So why the guidance theory? Didn't god have any other toys to play with?
<<<The whole thing is bent on WHO IS GOD. Satan says he is in full defiance to the point of violence. God begs to differ and shall drop the Devil in the big hole forever.>>>
If the real god is so powerful I don't see him going through such a long drawn out ordeal to make a point. If god is all knowing shouldn't he know that he is the real god and not Satan? Couldn't he have just challenged Satan to an arm wrestling match or a friendly game of paintball? Why did god have to create man just to have them suffer and die to prove that Satan was a bad guy? Look's to me that god screwed up by creating Satan in the first place and he is going about fixing his mistake the hard way. I don't think your bible god is very smart.
<<<Satan made the creation bad. God made the creation good. God let the creation go bad, so he could save it. It's on the same idea as a technique for putting out a forest fire. You make a fire to stop a fire>>>
Your talking a forest fire here. Iv never seen firemen take out big hoses of fire to put out a building fire. I think that water works best in this case. But since I'm ignorant I may be wrong here.
<<<Killing began with Satan. Killing will end with God.>>>
Refresh my memory, who was it that Satan killed to begin with?
<<<God wrote the Bible. Careful where you tread.>>>
He did? which version? Which of the thousands of christian religions is the right one again, I forget?
<<<I feel sorry for you and pity you.>>>
That is so sweet for you to say that. I appreciate the pity.
<<<To you who does not understand. You are a classic mocker.>>>
Classic mocker? I don't know about that. I would say that I am just an average mocker.
Hey this has been fun. Lets do it again real soon. Your fun to play with.
Take care and watch out for the boogie man!
Dave