IronGland

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  SUV'S Owners Support Terrorists!

  by pettygrudger in

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  23 years ago

  yep, new campaign ad's on tv basically links the owning of an suv to the need for lots of gas, to that money going to countries that supply that gas, to the terrorists who get funding from those same countries.. so, based on this - what kind of car do you drive?

  do you think that we american's have a moral or ethical responsibility to self-reduce our need for oil, and reduce just in general all the "materialistic" things in life to which we feel entitled?.

  i drive a geo prizm - 35 mpg - because of our environment (and plus i'm just a cheap ass!

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  What irritates me about this SUV issue is, that the elitist groups that are slaming the SUV's are the same people with very large homes, pools, hot tubs etc. that Animal spoke of, which also use up fuel to heat etc. They are also very willing to use private jets "which use tons of fuel" to go to their second or third home that uses more fuel. Then there is the yacht

  WTF are you talking about? Are you a former WT writer? You've got the writing style of making broad generalizations about unspecified groups down perfect.

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  SUV'S Owners Support Terrorists!

  by pettygrudger in

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  23 years ago

  yep, new campaign ad's on tv basically links the owning of an suv to the need for lots of gas, to that money going to countries that supply that gas, to the terrorists who get funding from those same countries.. so, based on this - what kind of car do you drive?

  do you think that we american's have a moral or ethical responsibility to self-reduce our need for oil, and reduce just in general all the "materialistic" things in life to which we feel entitled?.

  i drive a geo prizm - 35 mpg - because of our environment (and plus i'm just a cheap ass!

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  Xena..im not just talking about THIS war. Based on your logic why aren't we going after N. Korea. Anyway thats another issue. My point is that our involvement in the middle east is primarily about oil. That being the case, it makes sense to be less dependent on it.

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  SUV'S Owners Support Terrorists!

  by pettygrudger in

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  23 years ago

  yep, new campaign ad's on tv basically links the owning of an suv to the need for lots of gas, to that money going to countries that supply that gas, to the terrorists who get funding from those same countries.. so, based on this - what kind of car do you drive?

  do you think that we american's have a moral or ethical responsibility to self-reduce our need for oil, and reduce just in general all the "materialistic" things in life to which we feel entitled?.

  i drive a geo prizm - 35 mpg - because of our environment (and plus i'm just a cheap ass!

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  Xena,

  Yes, for some people SUVs are useful. However, I would wager that the vast majority of them rarely see snow or 4WD. Seeing as how a) a change in oil prices can severely affect our economy b) we're willing to go to war to get the stuff, it seems that a good thing for our nation would be to try to be less dependent on it. I wonder what the actual price for a gallon of gas would be if we had to factor in the occasional war and the tax money we pay in order for our military to ensure the supply is safe.

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  SUV'S Owners Support Terrorists!

  by pettygrudger in

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  23 years ago

  yep, new campaign ad's on tv basically links the owning of an suv to the need for lots of gas, to that money going to countries that supply that gas, to the terrorists who get funding from those same countries.. so, based on this - what kind of car do you drive?

  do you think that we american's have a moral or ethical responsibility to self-reduce our need for oil, and reduce just in general all the "materialistic" things in life to which we feel entitled?.

  i drive a geo prizm - 35 mpg - because of our environment (and plus i'm just a cheap ass!

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  You're right animal. However, from all I've read the ads primary purpose was to show the hypocrisy of the government sponsored anti-drug ads. No sane person believes people are ever gonna give up their tanks. I'll admit, I hate the damn things, Not just because of gas mileage. I drive an older sedan that doesn't get much better mileage than a new SUV, so I have no room to point fingers. I hate not being able to see when backing out of a parking space. I hate that if I get in a wreck with one, my car will be crushed and I will probably die. They strike me as wasteful and silly. It's extremely comical to see one person driving around in these land yachts to go to the grocery store. The commercials for them always show some cowboy driving throught the snow in the backwoods of montana. But the reality is that most are driven by fat office schlubs.

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  SUV'S Owners Support Terrorists!

  by pettygrudger in

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  23 years ago

  yep, new campaign ad's on tv basically links the owning of an suv to the need for lots of gas, to that money going to countries that supply that gas, to the terrorists who get funding from those same countries.. so, based on this - what kind of car do you drive?

  do you think that we american's have a moral or ethical responsibility to self-reduce our need for oil, and reduce just in general all the "materialistic" things in life to which we feel entitled?.

  i drive a geo prizm - 35 mpg - because of our environment (and plus i'm just a cheap ass!

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  Wow, im suprised they finally got that on TV. Arianna Huffington was one of the people pushing to get funds for those SUV ad's. One of the big reasons for the ad was as a counter to those ridiculous anti drug ad's that link smoking weed to supporting terrorism.

  To Freedom: I know what you are saying about being in the larger car. What bugs me is that the reason everyone has to get a bigger car to be safe is because everyone else keeps getting biger and bigger cars. I was riding in one of my friends Navigator the other night. While I have to admit it was a very nice ride, as I sat there and looked out the back window, I just thought how absolutely ridiculous this automobile was. That's why I like the anti-SUV ads. I think it's hypocritical for the Feds to say buying drugs supports terrorism while ignoring the fact that they get a lot of funding via oil money.

  Edited by - irongland on 8 January 2003 20:32:10

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  Would you post as much if...

  by Jourles in

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  23 years ago

  ...the number of posts next to your name was not there?

  or what if the date from the time you signed up was missing?

  do you think that some here crave the attention that they receive just by the amount of posts that they create?

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  Haven't you heard? At some future date when Simon closes this site, he or she with the highest post count gets a coffee maker. It's difficult to post everyday, but hey, new coffee maker.

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  Where else do you hang out?

  by meadow77 in

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  23 years ago

  i have never been much of a computer queen, until i found this site.

  i have to admit that i have been sucked in.

  i love it here, and spend way more time here than i should.

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  http://boards.straightdope.com

  --Best Boards Ever.

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  Your Cheesiest/Silliest/Strangest WTScans

  by Stephanus in

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  23 years ago

  i've been enjoying scanning bits and pieces of ruth's old 'tower magazines.

  many of us will have old copies of the literature lying around, so why not scan something that's particularly meaningful to you?

  here's my offering to start the ball rolling.

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  How did you ladies ever find the JW guys attractive. They always look like such dweebs in the magazines yes you were supposed to respect him as the stronger partner.

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  alcoholics/non-alcoholics and AA

  by IronGland in

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  23 years ago

  i realise this question is off-topic for this forum but i believe this forum moved away from it's original intent long ago, and is now just a social place to talk to others with a similar background.

  i've got a friend who has recently begun going to aa meetings.

  she tells me that an 'alcoholics' body breaks down alcohol differently from a non-alcoholic and the difference in metabolism is what differentiates between an alcoholic and non-alcoholic.

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  Thanks for your comments Prisca. The thing is, I drink on a daily basis. I'll drink a beer or three and a few glasses of wine, catch a buzz,but still not act like a mental case, so it doesn't really seem to be related to quantity or frequency of drinking. I guess some people are just not very introspective and don't bother to think about what motivates them to act the wat they do.

  As for the comments about old timers. I'm an older timer than many of the 'old timers' on this board. Getting a high post count by typing "yeah" and "I agree" or "Good Post" is a cheap way to gain seniority,even if it actually mattered.

  Edited by - irongland on 6 January 2003 21:9:23

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  alcoholics/non-alcoholics and AA

  by IronGland in

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  23 years ago

  i realise this question is off-topic for this forum but i believe this forum moved away from it's original intent long ago, and is now just a social place to talk to others with a similar background.

  i've got a friend who has recently begun going to aa meetings.

  she tells me that an 'alcoholics' body breaks down alcohol differently from a non-alcoholic and the difference in metabolism is what differentiates between an alcoholic and non-alcoholic.

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  IronGland 23 years ago

  Thanks for the link Banshee. What do you guys feel is the difference between someone who just drinks alot and an alcoholic. My opinion is that when one's drinking is causing problems in their life and they continue to put alcohol first, they are an alcoholic. For example, some would say I drink quite a bit, however, I don't get mean, I don't drive drunk and I don't drink if I have other responsibilities to attend to. As everyone is aware, some people drink and get extremely mean or emotional or just behave erratic and don't seem to realise it while they are doing it. I am aware of the difference in myself while I'm drinking and I'm aware that alcohol is responsible and am able to control my emotional response to it. Some people start drinking and become completely different people and it's scary. You can say to them "you realise that you're drunk and aren't acting rationally" and they still just dont get it. I dont understand that. When I drink I'm aware of who I am and where I am. No one has ever accused me of acting like a fool. I get a bit friendlier,more talkative, but I dont act like an idiot. Why do some people just lose it when they drink? No offense to anyone here, but has anyone noticed that women tend to get really insane when they drink more so than men. I realise that is broad generalisation and is perhaps only based on my personal experience,but it really seems to be the case. (waiting on the daggers from all the women here )

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