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Article by Morman Organization about JW'S

by whereami in

jw
friends

watchtower and awake!

' not so with the watchtower and awake!

the watchtower and awake!

Polygamist compound raided- 52 GIRLS REMOVED AFTER COMPLAINT

by sf in

http://www.mercurynews.com/religion/ci_8821119.

by miguel bustillo.

los angeles timesarticle launched: 04/05/2008 01:33:03 am pdt.

sf

Latest news is that at least 200 have been removed.

I hear they are looking for FOSTER HOMES to place them in.

That is ridiculous.

I just really feel for these kids.

So many messed up adults running and ruining this world.

Is it any wonder?

So now they just want to throw them into more messed up family lives; foster homes. Yeah, that's The Answer. Thrust them into the lives of total strangers. That will fix them.

Pardon me while I burst, into flames.

sKally

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

sf

who is the one (handle?) that did the randytv.com site?

It's a mystery really.

sKally

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

sf

Please GOOGLE [ freeminds U.N. ].

You are welcomed.

sKally

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

sf

More specifically:

The U.N. Thing....

http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TF76UMD3KKL1DVR51

sKally

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Polygamist compound raided- 52 GIRLS REMOVED AFTER COMPLAINT

by sf in

http://www.mercurynews.com/religion/ci_8821119.

by miguel bustillo.

los angeles timesarticle launched: 04/05/2008 01:33:03 am pdt.

sf

http://www.mercurynews.com/religion/ci_8821119

By Miguel Bustillo
Los Angeles Times Article Launched: 04/05/2008 01:33:03 AM PDT

HOUSTON - State troopers sealed off a polygamist compound in a remote stretch of Texas on Friday, and child welfare officials removed 52 girls after a complaint that a 16-year-old had been physically and sexually abused, authorities said.

The investigation at the YFZ Ranch - a walled-off complex just outside the town of Eldorado that is anchored by a towering white temple - came as welcome news to local officials, who had complained for years about the religious sect hunkered there.

"We know they're violating the law, but someone has to raise their hand and testify, and until that happens we don't have anything," said James C. Doyle, a local justice of the peace who has flown frequently over the compound in his private plane. "Those young girls are so brainwashed, it's hard to know what they'll say."

Texas Department of Public Safety officials disclosed shortly after noon that they were going to execute search and arrest warrants on some of the compound's inhabitants, but did not explain why. As of Friday evening, no one had been arrested, a spokesman said.

A Child Protective Services spokesman confirmed that officials had removed 52 girls by bus - ranging from 6 months to 17 years of age. Of those, 18 were taken into state custody due to concerns about abuse and neglect, while the others were being interviewed by caseworkers to determine whether they too should be taken from their parents.

"Generally speaking, a removal occurs when there is no other way to protect a child from abuse or neglect," spokesman Patrick Crimmins said. "It could be that abuse has happened, or that we felt there was a really good chance that it would."

The YFZ - Yearning for Zion - Ranch was built by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints after the church purchased an exotic game preserve in 2004. The self-styled prophet of the controversial Mormon offshoot, Warren Jeffs, was convicted in Utah last year of being an accomplice to rape for forcing a 14-year-old to marry and have sex with her 19-year-old cousin 2001. Jeffs, 52, also has been charged with being an accomplice to incest and sexual conduct with a minor in Arizona, and is imprisoned there, awaiting trial.

Marrying more than one person is illegal in Texas. Although polygamist followers do not obtain marriage licenses for their multiple nuptials, citizens of Eldorado - a town of about 1,800 about 2 1/2 hours from San Antonio - have called for Texas to investigate allegations that girls there were being pledged to men against their will.

Texas officials have been deeply concerned about the YFZ Ranch, and have been working to ensure that any confrontation with sect members does not end in the type of chaos that marked the 1993 siege of the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas. That incident left 82 sect members - including its charismatic leader, David Koresh - dead.

On Friday, the Department of Public Safety said that the YFZ Ranch probe was launched because Child Protective Services had received a complaint about improper activity at the compound. Crimmins said the agency wanted to react quickly to the complaint - which claimed that a 16-year-old girl had been abused - but had to move deliberately, with backing from state and local law enforcement.

Troopers sealed off all entrances to the compound Thursday evening, and child welfare agents began interviewing some of Jeffs' estimated 400 followers, including children, officials said. As the probe continued Friday, officials said they were restricting news organizations from flying over the self-sufficient compound - where armed guards were previously spotted in surveillance towers.

"At this point, we are helping (child welfare agents) interview people within the compound," Department of Public Safety spokesman Tom Vinger said in a statement. "The people at YFZ Ranch have been very cooperative. They are providing all the people we need to talk to."

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Golden Age editor gets voice box removed due to smoking!

by Witness 007 in

golden age 10/25 1933 p.57 "infeebled constitutions, inherited from fashionable mothers, cannot stand up under tobbaco...".

yes only weak, momma's boys,don't smoke!

good medical advice?

sf

G.A 2/10 1926 p.310 "Air baths are good for preventing colds...what you do is strip naked in the morning and bob up and down for awhile."

Well now, in regards to TED JARACZ, this explains a great deal.

[[ OUTLAW, where ARE you brother? ]]

sKally

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WATCHTOWER COMMENTS IS BACK! Whole KNOCKING story...

by V in

happily announcing that watchtower comments is back up on youtube with all study articles restored.. to answer the knocking producers, i removed the introduction, including all 3 seconds of prirated knocking video and replaced it with a lovely animation.

the rest of the content is the same.

check out the videos here:.

sf

Why does he defend JW's so?

Perhaps this may shine the light on your inquiry:

Apocalypse Later: Jehovah's Witnesses decide the end is fluid

Jehovah's Witnesses decide the end is fluid

From Newsweek magazine, December 18, 1995, page 59. Article by Kenneth L. Woodard, with Joel P. Engardio.
THE THIRD MILLENNIUM is just four years away, and you'd think that Jehovah's Witnesses would be ecstatic. Ever since the movement's inception in the 1870s, the Witnesses have insisted that the world as we know it is about to end. According to their unique Biblical calculations, the countdown to Armageddon commenced in 1914 -- the first world war was a major sign -- and Christ would establish his millennial kingdom on earth "before the generation who saw the events of 1914 passes away." For countless Witnesses, this prediction was good reason not to save money, start a career or make burial plans. As one of their leaders famously preached in 1918: "Millions now living will never die."

Now, it seems, all millennial bets are off. In last month's issue of The Watchtower, the sect's leaders quietly acknowledged that Jesus was right in the first place, when he said that "no one knows the day or the hour." All previous references to timetables for Armageddon, the magazine now suggests, were speculation rather than settled doctrine. The year 1914 still marks the beginning of the last days. But those who hoped to witness the battle of Armageddon and the establishment of God's kingdom on earth will have to wait. Henceforth, any generation that experiences such calamities as war and plagues like AIDS could be the one to witness the end times. In short, the increasingly middle-class Witnesses would do well to buy life insurance.

If this serious revision of expectations takes the edge off the Witnesses' apocalyptic profile, it also buys them time. The generation that was alive in 1914 is rapidly disappearing, and the the sect's current leadership shows every sign of digging in for the long haul. In recent years the Witnesses have been on a building spree: they just completed a 670-acre educational center in rural New York state that includes 624 apartments, garages for up to 800 cars and a dining facility that accommodates 1,600 people at one sitting. Officials of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (the Witnesses' official title) deny that the leadership felt a generational pressure to change. "The end is still close," says Witness spokesman Bob Pevy. "We just can't put numbers on Jesus' words."

So far, the new interpretation has caused no noticeable decline in membership among the 5.1 million Witnesses worldwide. But then, they rarely air their differences with outsiders. "Believing the end was imminent gave a special urgency to being a Jehovah's Witness," says Ray Franz, a former member of the society's governing board in Brooklyn, N.Y., who left the church in 1981. Older members, especially, heroically risked their lives and reputations by refusing blood transfusions, military service, allegiance to the flag and other acts prohibited by their faith -- all with the expectation that they would soon live forever in the paradise of God's new kingdom on earth. Charles Kris, 73, a retired autoworker from Saginaw, Mich., served three years in prison with 400 other Witnesses for refusing to fight in World War II. "It was prison life, but I took advantage of the time to study the Bible and witness to other prisoners," he recalls.

But for Kris, and especially for those younger Witnesses who have no memory of the rough early days (the Nazis interred many Witnesses in concentration camps), preaching God's message is more important than witnessing the end of the world. "I'd like to see it happen," says Kris, who still hands out tracts door to door.

"But if it doesn't happen in my lifetime, I won't be disappointed."
sKally

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WATCHTOWER COMMENTS IS BACK! Whole KNOCKING story...

by V in

happily announcing that watchtower comments is back up on youtube with all study articles restored.. to answer the knocking producers, i removed the introduction, including all 3 seconds of prirated knocking video and replaced it with a lovely animation.

the rest of the content is the same.

check out the videos here:.

sf

I feel everything I need to say has already been said on the topic and I am no longer focusing on KNOCKING as I have moved on to other projects.

Well now, isn't that convenient.

I am going to take a wild guess and state that this will be his rehearsed statement to any media outlet and/ or others who approach him/ them for an interview.

I'll even take wagers!

sKally

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WATCHTOWER COMMENTS IS BACK! Whole KNOCKING story...

by V in

happily announcing that watchtower comments is back up on youtube with all study articles restored.. to answer the knocking producers, i removed the introduction, including all 3 seconds of prirated knocking video and replaced it with a lovely animation.

the rest of the content is the same.

check out the videos here:.

sf

Again TED, take note:

Welcome to the information war. You bruise us in the heel, we bruise you in the head. Whether or not the Watchtower Society instigated this action through Knocking or not, an example is being made. This is what happens when the truth confronts the "Truth."

Now what Ted?

sKally