AlainAlam

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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  cofty, I just read both your posts on blood. They're an eye opener. These are exactly what I'm looking for. I should (and will) read more of your posts. Thank you!!
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  Vanderhoven7 but the book of Revelation IS about JW :P

  Thank you for your post!
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  neat blue dog, I've seen the Paradise Earth one, but I must disagree. The Bible is filled with verses about an Earthly paradise. Is 25 explicitly talks about the Earth. Rv 21 speaks of Jerusalem "descending", so it's easy to argue it's descending on Earth to bless it, Mt 6.10-like. Let me know if you think I'm missing something.

  I'll check the other one right away!
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  waton Aha yes thank you!
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  TD You're right. I need to learn to stop viewing the Bible as one coherent book, or even one book. Thank you :)
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  cofty, just read your post there. Amazing. Some points were new to me. Thank you very much!
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  Hairtrigger, sure, you can feel JW's are worse persons than non-JW's, in general. You don't need to justify or provide evidence for your belief, unless you're trying to convince others. I'm not trying to convince anyone that my beliefs regarding JW being good persons in general are correct. I was just trying to say that anti-JW bias/hatred is not what I'm looking for in this thread, and that I'd like posts to mention doctrinal mistakes rather than other kinds of mistakes.

  As to why I'm interested in such discussions, two reasons:
  The first is simply curiosity. I like to read and discuss thoughts. I will often discuss the thoughts of other religions I don't believe in, although on this group in particular I'd like to discuss JW doctrine in particular.
  The second is that for years I have been indoctrinated. Some JW teachings I'm sure are scriptural. Other JW teachings I'm sure are unscriptural. But recently I've been noticing that many beliefs that I've had for years and that I thought were scriptural, actually weren't. As a fresh apostate I'd like to make sense of the things I've learned :) For example, I've learned something from cofty's post above. Although I don't believe in Jehovah, Jesus, or the Bible, I need this. I hope this makes sense :)
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  Anders Andersen yes I agree :)
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  cofty, thank you very much! Yes, that makes a lot of sense. I did use to feel that, but your post made it clearer. I'll check out the other thread :)
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  I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

  actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

  i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

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  AlainAlam

  Background info: Although I'm an apostate, I don't hate Jehovah's Witnesses, or the Organization itself. Actually I find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased. I think most of them are amazing people, and I wish more non-Witnesses were like them. I left because I stopped believing in Jehovah and the Bible altogether.

  So I'm not interested in discussing non-essential doctrines, but basic doctrines like: Trinity, hellfire, predestination, God's purpose being for the Earth to become a paradise, what the Kingdom really is, what Armageddon really is, what the 1000-year reign really is, etc. Whether you still believe in the Bible or not, is there any basic doctrine that JW teach and that you've found to be scripturally incorrect? If so, please share, I'd love to hear!

  Otherwise, I'll start with a suggestion of my own: The Witnesses teach that the "unrighteous" are brought back to life in order to learn about God during the 1000-year reign. I think there's no scriptural basis for this thought. Any ideas for/against this doctrine?