Posts by AlainAlam

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How can I change my avatar?

by AlainAlam in

on my profile, under "update avatar", i click on "upload avatar image" and choose the picture i want, but it doesn't work.

i know it says there may be a slight delay but i've been waiting for more than 12 hours so i'm wondering if there's something wrong with the site, or if i'm missing something..

On my profile, under "Update Avatar", I click on "Upload Avatar Image" and choose the picture I want, but it doesn't work. I know it says there may be a slight delay but I've been waiting for more than 12 hours so I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the site, or if I'm missing something.

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A chance for the unrighteous?

by AlainAlam in

the witnesses teach that the "unrighteous" are brought back to life in order to learn about god during the 1000-year reign.

i don't think that's a bible teaching, for the following reason:.

1) no verse says that.

AlainAlam

The Witnesses teach that the "unrighteous" are brought back to life in order to learn about God during the 1000-year reign. I don't think that's a Bible teaching, for the following reason:

1) No verse says that. Acts 24:15 doesn't say why they will be resurrected. Rev 20 doesn't say the "nations" during the Millenial Reign include unrighteous ones. Isaiah 11 doesn't say that the unrighteous will benefit from the increased knowledge during the Millenial.

2) On the other hand, tons of verses that mention the unrighteous say they will be judged if they don't repent.

3) The Bible does say we will be judged for what we do in this world. "For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil" (Ecclesiastes 12:14). "We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad." (2 Corinthians 5:10). Although I think that's pretty stupid - The JW narrative (of the Kingdom coming to makes thing right again and teaching unrighteous the truth rather than the concept of judgment day for what we've done in the flesh) makes more sense and is more compatible with the concept of a just, loving god. It's just not biblical. I think it's just an attempt to make Jehovah look better than he is.

What do you think? Do you have additional thoughts that go against the scripturalness of this doctrine, or do you think I am missing something and it is actually Scriptural?

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

Giordano 67% of JW born-ins stop identifying as JW's, interesting, do you have a reference for this?

And thanks for your advice! Yes, I know there's nothing worthwhile in the Bible :) I'm not looking for a "refined truth" here. I mentioned above while I'm asking if you'd like to scroll up.

Thanks everyone!!

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

The Fall Guy, good point about Romans 6.7. Actually I noticed this several years when discussing hellfire with a Protestant. When talking about the "wages for sin is death" thing, he kept saying that "death" meant spiritual death. Gen "you will die", spiritual. Romans 5.12, spiritual death. And Romans 6.7, spiritual death. I told him it obviously wasn't the case, that Adam and Eve did literally die because of their sin, and that we literally die because of inherited sin. However, I wondered about 6.7. When I went back home, I opened Romans 6 to read the context, and noticed what you just said - he's obviously talking about spiritual death.

I like the added value of what you said on the blood of Christ being the basis of forgiveness of sins.

I think the Bible is so incoherent that we need a lot of twisting to try and make sense out of it.

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

cofty, I just read both your posts on blood. They're an eye opener. These are exactly what I'm looking for. I should (and will) read more of your posts. Thank you!!

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

Vanderhoven7 but the book of Revelation IS about JW :P

Thank you for your post!

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

neat blue dog, I've seen the Paradise Earth one, but I must disagree. The Bible is filled with verses about an Earthly paradise. Is 25 explicitly talks about the Earth. Rv 21 speaks of Jerusalem "descending", so it's easy to argue it's descending on Earth to bless it, Mt 6.10-like. Let me know if you think I'm missing something.

I'll check the other one right away!

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

waton Aha yes thank you!

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

TD You're right. I need to learn to stop viewing the Bible as one coherent book, or even one book. Thank you :)

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

AlainAlam

cofty, just read your post there. Amazing. Some points were new to me. Thank you very much!