Thank you, cofty! I'm reading Franz's books, but have never heard of Carl Johanson. I'll look him up. Thanks for the rest as well.
AlainAlam
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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AlainAlam
ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara so what do you understand the public declaration/confession of faith to refer to?
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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AlainAlam
2+2=5 I've labeled apostates apostates. A person who renounces his religion is an apostate. I'm an apostate - proudly so. I didn't mean it in a derogatory way.
I haven't labeled the JW's as amazing. I said most of them are. That's my personal experience and belief. You're free to disagree of course. And to think I'm a biased troll.
And by launching accusations about me instead of keeping with the topic I started, you're hijacking the thread. So, yes, PLEASE stop feeding me :)
To 2+2=5 and everyone in general: I'll answer messages that are relevant to the thread and just ignore the rest, particularly when they're personal accusations. If there's anything else you'd like to discuss, please invite me to another thread or contact me on the side. Thank you!
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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AlainAlam
ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara they did tune down their preaching and start meeting in smaller groups in Russia, like they always do when there's persecution. I don't see any evil intent there. Let me know if I'm missing something :)
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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AlainAlam
Thank you, cofty!
Let me ask a couple of questions:
"I have not the slightest doubt that they know they have misunderstood the blood issue". From what I read on your other post, I agree they're wrong, even from a scriptural point of view. But what makes you think they know they're wrong?
What makes you think they know that Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 B.C?
Regarding the UN, what were the real reasons, in your opinion? I've read about the subject, but I haven't read anything claiming they had hidden reasons.
I'm not disregarding the rest, BTW :) These just happen to be the only ones I have question marks about.
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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AlainAlam
LongHairGal, thanks for sharing! And yes I'm glad you kept your job :)
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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AlainAlam
TD We could quote another "book" in the Bible, like the book of life in Philippians 4:3 or the book of the living which is equated with having a righteous standard in Ps 69.28.
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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AlainAlam
TD well supposing the Bible is true (which I don't believe), a person's name today is either in Rev 3.5's book of life now or it isn't. At Armageddon, he will survive or die based on whether his name is still there (he remained faithful) or not (he hasn't).
Right?
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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AlainAlam
TD but the book of life is opened at the end of the 1000-year reign. Isn't it explicit in Rev 20?
While the Bible mentions our names being in the book of life of not even in our days (Rev 3:5 for example).
Or am I missing something?
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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AlainAlam
Lol, my OP actually got downvoted :D Maybe someone didn't like the fact I was open to considering the evidence in favor of the GB having bad intent :P Fanatic apostates give apostasy a bad name :)