Great idea Harmony! Any city that honors so much debauchery and vice should definitely be a meeting place of apostates!
I'll take anyone who wants to all my favorite strip clubs and dance bars!!! LOVE VEGAS!!!!
Shauna
hey, crazy idea from chat.....doesn't a trip to vegas in say january sound great?.
apost-o-fest 2002 vegas style .
so whatcha think?
Great idea Harmony! Any city that honors so much debauchery and vice should definitely be a meeting place of apostates!
I'll take anyone who wants to all my favorite strip clubs and dance bars!!! LOVE VEGAS!!!!
Shauna
back when i was a lusty young lad of 17, a certain sister caught my eye - i swear that she could make her eyelashes beckon - and i duly decided to pay court to said sister.. however, it was not to be so simple.
round about that time, it would have been mid-60's, the wtbts were having a real downer on anyone who wore a short skirt (not me), danced the twist or grew their hair (me) over their ears.. but, the worse thing was still to come.
folks, i am talking about chaperoning!
When I got married over 9 years ago chaperoning was huge in my life. More so cuz my parents were ridiculous. Before we walked down the aisle, my ex & I spent a total of I think 3 times together alone. They were for the most important occasions, like when he proposed we went to dinner. But the kicker....since we would go to his parents house since they were much more leniant, my parents required me to call them when we left the house for the restaurant, call them when we got to the restaurant, call them when we left the restaurant, call them when we got home. They knew where we were coming from and going to so they knew exactly how long the time should be between calls. Neither of us had cell phones way back then so it was kinda hard to fake.
Granted I was only 17. Funny how my parents just weeks before I got married wouldn't let me alone with him, even when he visited our house my mom would stand by us when we said goodbye to each other.....yet in just a few weeks I would be completely on my own! How in the hell do they reconcile that!!! Just glad I answer to no one anymore. Boy, that would be hard with the life of debauchery I live now!
Shauna
witness .
make me a witness.
take me up out of darkness.
You bet, Stephen! I'll bring all of my CD's.
witness .
make me a witness.
take me up out of darkness.
Didn't know if you guys knew that if you allow the very last song on Sarah's Fumbling Towards Ecstasy CD to continue, you will eventually hear another version of Possession. It's even more beautiful than the original!
LOVE SARAH!!!
i'm so bad about remembering these types of things, but, not this time!.
happy birthday, riz!!!.
you are a wonderful friend, and you constantly crack me up!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, RIZ!!!!
I don't think you've ever looked better. You are in your prime, ready to take on the world! Damn, you're hot! Don't let that old man, Nate, get ya down. (I'm the same age, this is a pep talk for me. I'll be 27 in a couple of weeks. UGH!)
Hope you have a fun weekend celebration. Take an extra shot of goldschlager for me!
Shauna
just introducing myself as the new girl on the block!
i am new to this forum and wanted to say hello.
i am 23 years old and currently living in atlanta georgia.
Guys, I should have said something earlier but.....
The day Phoenix posted this message she was also in the chat room. She was under the impression that this was a Witness site. When she found out there were Df'd and Da'd people here she ran off, making it quite clear she did not want to associate with people like us.
I hope she looked around a bit first and saw something that will make her think later on.....but I doubt it since if she actually read any of the threads she would have seen that most of us are not lovers of the WT.
Anyway, I don't want to discourage her from lurking if she infact still is...but I also know how loving all of you are and how open you are to welcoming new ones. I just wanted you to be aware.
Shauna
well most of its been fun guys and gals.. but i'm outta here.
i am much happier thinking about other things.
i just realized that as long as i keep coming here i am still a slave of the watchtower.. big farewell hugs.
JoelBear, I will miss you terribly! I have always loved your posts. You always seem to make me laugh. You are my breath of fresh air.
I hope to see you around again soon. It just won't be the same without you.
Good luck & best wishes to you and Mitch. I wish you both much happiness!!!
Love, Shauna
first of all, i'd like to say a warm hello to everyone here.
i'm going to try to be coherent in this post, but if i should stray, please forgive me.
i hope you'll enjoy what i'm about to say; i look forward to reading your responses.
Lisa, girl, I'm so sorry you're hurting! I, along with everyone here, know how you feel in some degree or another. My pain did not fully start right away either. It was almost a year and a half before I began to see signs that I was losing it (the uncontrollable crying for hours on end every couple of weeks was a dead give away!) I personally know of others who are still feeling the effects after 15 years because they never dealt with it in the beginning.
But we are dealing with it! And everyone here is ready and willing to help us deal with it. We are well on our way to a recovery! I know it's painful to think of all we've lost, much of which can never be regained. But please draw some comfort by looking at Eden and thinking about the happy, balanced life she will have because of you. You did the greatest thing a parent could do for their child....you are guiding her to a healthy, happy, fulfilled life. You are the parent that your parents, that my parents, are not! What greater honor could you have. I'm so proud of you and am so appreciative that I can call you a friend!
Hang in there girl! Things will get better! I left a message on your cell yesterday. I hope we can get together soon!
Love ya! Keep that chin up!
Shauna
JoelBear.....I'm so sorry to hear that you're feeling down! {{{{{{big hug}}}}}}
I unfortunately understand the feelings of guilt. It's strange that I know it's not guilt from my present course in life. I have no regrets whatsoever about leaving the WT. It is and will continue to be the best thing I've ever done in my life. What the guilt stems from is knowing that I have added (although not caused) to the rift in my family relationships. I endlessly tumble back & forth between feeling bad that I let them down and then to the feeling that it's their fault for ending our relationship because they have a stronger love for a manmade organization than their own daughter!
As with everything regarding the recovery process from the WT, it's a rollercoaster of emotions. I hope you can remember that you're just in a low dip right now.....but soon you will be feeling the exhiliration of life once more as you go over that big hump with your hands up screaming in joy! You know, my favorite part of a good rollercoaster are the loops. It the perfect balance of up then down. I liken it to those moments when we are both depressed and at the same time strangely find strength. Those are the moments when we really learn from the experience....we learn more about ourselves and others.
I hope you are able to get out of your slump soon, JoelBear. I need you to so when I'm in mine you'll be there to pep me up!
I'm sending cheery, happy thoughts your way!
Shauna
witness .
make me a witness.
take me up out of darkness.
Riz....you are my girl! I am a huge Sarah fan. I've seen her twice in concert...once solo and once at Lilith Fair in Pasadena. You quoted my absolute favorite song of hers.....Elsewhere.
I often play that song and sing it at the top of my lungs when I'm feeling a little down & out about my strined relationship with my parents. It gives me so much strength.....I have never had such an emotional reaction to music as I have with Sarah's.
There is a distance I have wondered. I was the child who waited for the day to break free. My life now is heaven for me and I don't care if it's not for anyone else. I will defend my life, even if doing so leaves me to linger in silence by myself without the love of my family. I only wish my parents would try to understand.
**sign** This song makes me cry every time. It's such a braod band of emotion.....sadness for what I've lost and know I will never regain no matrer how much things may improve over time......and conviction and happiness that this is MY LIFE and it's so right for me!
Thank you so much for reminding me! I haven't listened to the song in a couple of weeks. Will head home tonight to get my fix!
Gotta come & see all ya Oregon friends sometime. I have a feeling, based on our age (I'm 26 too), your taste in awesome music and our shared experience in the borg that we would have a whole lot in common. I would love to meet you, Nate & Rileygurl in person. I think we'd have a blast! Hopefully one day!
Hugs,
Shauna