@ rebel
That is a crazy excerpt! I was laughing so hard I snorted. Anyway, thanks for that 😂
i need some advice guys.
how do you get people to mind their own buiseness without coming off as rude?.
i was invited to a jw gathering last night.
@ rebel
That is a crazy excerpt! I was laughing so hard I snorted. Anyway, thanks for that 😂
don't know if anyone else caught this subtle but malicious photo from the 12/13/15 wt study article.. not sure how to post pictures here, but the photo is on the website's copy of the article, just below paragraph 12:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20151015/give-us-more-faith/.
note the 3 pictures in sequence tell a "story":.
Yup...our cong went crazy on that picture..saying even young children need to make sacrifices for the kingdom(i.e. no little dog) Multiple people commented on that scenario with true glee, saying how happy the boy was even without his beloved pooch.
With tears in her eyes, my 9 year old crumpled her magazine and stuffed it in her bag.
My heart breaks again...
with all the focus on the shooters and the rehashing the cowardly acts of those determined to spread violence and fear, i think its good to talk about those who are not cowards and its their names we should remember most to take the power away from the martyr cowards.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2015/12/07/i-got-you-san-bernardino-victim-shielded-female-coworker-during-shooting-saving-her-life/.
i got you: san bernardino victim shielded female co-worker during shooting, saving her life.
when was the last time anyone recalls hearing the word 'remnant', in meetings or conversation?
is it something still discussed?
[i haven't attended in 20 years, so no idea].
can any j.w.
actually coherently explain along with their alleged evidence, their latest claims about the supposed relationship between mikey & jebus?.
cheers!.
@data-dog
Do you have a link for this? I'm super curious...
no, not because of the message of deluding yourself into seeing the hand of god working in mundane wt activities.
that is to be expected from this org.
what really bothered me was the quote in paragraph one.
I too felt like I was gonna barf during the study. My face must have shown it too, because hubby kept asking if I was alright. The kicker was when my kiddo leans over after one of the "Gods hand" experiences was read, and whispers "What if they are lying?" And then I couldn't stop smiling. I've been planting seeds. So happy she is a thinker.
If these stupid WT articles don't fool a 9 year old, what is wrong with all the adults lapping it up?!!
Even my fully"in" spouse does not agree with the reasoning in this article-we have have discussed this subject many times. He usually comments at the meeting, but he did not this time.
It seems to me that the WT is very conflicted on this subject. Yesterday's study article certainly doesn't square with all the articles in the recent past which have "indicated" that "evidently" God does not intervene for individuals and the best one can expect is the strength to deal with difficult situations. And "apparently" only the greater good of the org will be protected.
Another thought that occurred to me during the WT---the article cited, as evidence of God's hand in action, all kinds of legal battles to protect the preaching have been won. But if God is interceding, why send lawyers to fight the cases, why not just send any faithful JW to court armed with prayer, faith, and conviction. Why is there an in house WT legal team? Their method for dealing with legal matters does not particularly indicate any overwhelming faith in Godly intervention.
Their methods belie their motives.
does anybody have any tips for conversation starters to covertly feel out someone in the cong that you suspect is a "knower" about ttat?.
any success or experiences to share?.
Does anybody have any tips for conversation starters to covertly feel out someone in the cong that you suspect is a "knower" about TTAT?
Any success or experiences to share?
here's mine: i'm 14 years old, just baptised and a old boy married elder of about 60 odd comes up to me and says " ooooooooooh!
"purrpurr"!
your getting such a lovely figure on you!
WT comment from a sister "All men want is sex, more sex and homo sex."
Elder, public talk "Young brothers should stay away from becoming commercial/ graphic artists because their employer may request for them to produce pornographic or even 'soft porn' images"
i am wondering if my deceased elder father was awake?
once we found out he was dying, i spent every moment i could with him, we were very close.
anyway, i offered to read to him a lot when he was resting.
Thanks for all the encouraging responses. Someday I will post more of my story. But for now, I will mostly lurk--I am still info gathering, fact checking,etc.
Anybody have ideas on how "feel out" other JWs that you suspect are also awake, but still with the org?
maybe I should start a new thread
i am wondering if my deceased elder father was awake?
once we found out he was dying, i spent every moment i could with him, we were very close.
anyway, i offered to read to him a lot when he was resting.
I am wondering if my deceased elder father was awake? Once we found out he was dying, I spent every moment I could with him, we were very close. Anyway, I offered to read to him a lot when he was resting. I often suggested various WT publications, but he consistently turned them down and wanted me to read only the Bible, particularly the books of John and James. He also told me those books were all I needed to be a Christian, the "rest is background noise". I thought we had more time, so I didn't ask what he meant. So I have spent the last decade trying to figure it out/read between the lines. Sometimes my father was a bit cryptic, but I generally was intuitive to his meanings. So I have read these two Bible books countless times, originally with JW filters, but the last few years I have chosen to read the Bible completely free of interpretation outside of my own. Well little did I know, that would completely derail any confidence I have had in the GB as spiritual leaders (along with all their JW TV stuff). But for now, I am still outwardly active JW.
As a side note, my father often used the term "rank and file", which I didn't hear other JWs use. And when he spoke about the uptight type elders on the body, he used the term "company man". He refused to attend the elder meeting at assemblies because he felt he did not have the right to vote on how much the friends could contribute at the assemblies, and apparently money was the only thing discussed at those top secret meetings. He also told me once, quite out of the blue, that if anybody in the hall ever confided in me about sexual abuse, that I should help them get to the police firstly, not the elders because "that is not an elder matter" (quoting him).
Anyway, just wondered if any of these things strike anybody here that maybe he was awake or headed there? Please be nice...my dad was one of my favorite people and a good man. I have lurked for a while but this is my first post and I really don't feel like I'm on solid ground yet. I still believe in God and put faith in Jesus, uncertain about the role of the Bible, particularly the OT, but I do not wish to discuss my beliefs here at this time. Thoughts anyone on my dads references?