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  Meet George Floyd

  by cofty in

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  his murder was a crime and justice must be done, but it's sobering to learn more about the man who is being lionised by millions.

  thanks as always to the courageous candace owens.. ....

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  @simon,

  What about what I said about

  Should there be an independent open investigation after every death involving the police and should the idea of "Qualified Immunity" be removed from the police?
  

  Will that ease the perception of police brutality?
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

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  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  Quetzal

  Why is it that if I do a Google search on 'white woman beaten by white man' I get nothing but stuff about black men and women being beaten?

  Is Google being controlled by WTBS? Brothers used to say 'if the Society called white black and black white, I'd believe them.'

  Now where's that thread on media bias?

  I take it that you are joking but it not, you arlead know what you are search for is called domestic violence
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  Quetzal

  Just imagine a line of people, most old men, some old women, some young children holding a banner saying 'Old Male Lives Matter'.
  

  @BlackPuddingEater

  You just missed the boat with your comment. Others have already highlighted that the message should be about police brutality and not about race baiting.

  Will there be anything wrong with someone holding a banner that says "Stop trying to kill 75 year old white male"?

  Would it change the message if the movement carried the banners "My life matters"?
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  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

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  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

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  Do balanced views bring in more funds than sensationalism for instance? I doubt it and I think it's a bad place to end up where you have to go searching for things to criticize for the sake of it - you end up a caricature Apostate that the WTS warns it's members about.
  

  That are correct. Unfortunately for him, Youtube is not like a forum where members can help create content. He will be at the mercy of Youtube's algorithm and continuous updates in order to be relevant.
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  Economic Recovery after COVID-19

  by Simon in

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  it feels like we've really turned a corner, this morning especially.. the covid lockdowns are ending and medical systems were not overwhelmed plus there are existing treatments that have been proven to be effective (like hydroxychloroquine) and new vaccines and medicines in the pipeline.

  a week or so ago the dems were dead against opening things up but since they are encouraging protests (which often turn violent) they can't continue that stance - thus proving trumps claim that it will soon be gone.

  the majority of the deaths were politician-assisted (which i hope people are prosecuted for) so it's not the big risk we were led to believe and (over) reacted to.. the bls reported this morning that the us economy just added a huge number of jobs (most on record) and will undoubtedly benefit even more from a drive to source local production and supply chains going forwards.

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  This was going to be a great thread about recovery after Corvid19 and then it turned into a disguise for

  Antifa and BLM have shown the world who they are and lost credibility. The dems are allowing the leftists in their ranks to walk the whole thing off a cliff and it's glorious. Expect the DNC to be a complete shit-show as everyone turns on each other. You just know Biden is going to get up, become confused and call Obama the N word from the podium.
  

  When the BLM brought race into police brutality discussion you accused them of making everything about race. Now there is a discussion about economic recovery and you brought Antifa and BLM into the conversation.
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  @minimus

  Let’s just get rid of the police. That’s what these groups are pushing as an agenda!
  

  Where did you get that?
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  @simon

  Again, this doesn't just happen to black people, why does BLM claim it does?. There are worse examples. Making it a "black" issue is misleading and unsupported by evidence.
  

  Here is the problem with the above statement. You need to look at the situation from their point of view and not just about "unsupported by evidence" Here is a quote from Wikipedia

  Women's fear of crime refers to women's fear of being a victim of crime, independent of actual victimization. Although fear of crime is a concern for people of all genders, studies consistently find that women around the world tend to have much higher levels of fear of crime than men, despite the fact that in many places, and for most offenses, men's actual victimization rates are higher.[1][2] Fear of crime is related to perceived risk of victimization, but is not the same; fear of crime may be generalized instead of referring to specific offenses, and perceived risk may also be considered a demographic factor that contributes to fear of crime. Women tend to have higher levels for both perceived risk and fear of crime
  

  If your wife tells you that she is afraid to go out alone and gives you the talk about women being attacked and victimized. I hope you will not throw stats back at her by saying

  men's actual victimization rates are higher.
  

  Perception and fear of the police in most minorities community is real. That also contributes to some of the irrational behaviors.
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  UK: Time to punish the Covid 19 PROFITEERS!

  by BoogerMan in

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  laws have been very quickly created in order to oppress & suppress uk citizens' basic freedoms and rights, while profiteering - thanks to the mantra of "supply & demand" - is allowed to flourish with nothing being done by the government to penalise companies who are more than likely reducing production of ppe in order to inflate their prices.

  (oil companies have done likewise for years) .

  "apart from actually finding the equipment, there are other problems.

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  Are they sending bethelites home because of the lack of work to do? Even in this situation? What if they have no home to go back to?
  

  There will likely be a big head count cut once they know they can safely send people packing. Without the public preaching, printing magazines is now a pointless exercise. Corvid19 has highlighted a lot of issues with the business model of a lot of organizations. For the JW, this will likely accelerate things and major changes might be in the works.

  They seem to be preparing for major reduction/sell off of KH in the UK based on the current charity merger initiative.
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  Meet George Floyd

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  his murder was a crime and justice must be done, but it's sobering to learn more about the man who is being lionised by millions.

  thanks as always to the courageous candace owens.. ....

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  Quetzal

  Technically, the glass is always completely full ... just not of liquid. But I don't know what you mean by this, the point is to make things better.
  

  What I meant by the "glass being hall full and half empty" is, people are looking at the same situation from a different angle.

  Initially you said this

  "All you see of black people when BLM are involved are criminal thugs, looters "

  and then in your response you said

  "Then you have a complaint with the media, because what I see it's predominantly black people."

  There is a little difference there "predominantly"

  What is the solution to the current crisis? How can you make things better?
  

  Should there be an independent open investigation after every death involving the police and should the idea of "Qualified Immunity" be removed from the police?
  

  Will that ease the perception of police brutality?

  More people should be rational and less emotional, especially black people - it would benefit them far more than protesting, rioting and looting.
  

  What benefit do you believe they will gain by not protesting?

  (I am not talking about the rioting and looting as that is obvious)
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  UK: Time to punish the Covid 19 PROFITEERS!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. current

  laws have been very quickly created in order to oppress & suppress uk citizens' basic freedoms and rights, while profiteering - thanks to the mantra of "supply & demand" - is allowed to flourish with nothing being done by the government to penalise companies who are more than likely reducing production of ppe in order to inflate their prices.

  (oil companies have done likewise for years) .

  "apart from actually finding the equipment, there are other problems.

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  Quetzal

  Without a profit motive, you wouldn't have a lot of things - it ensures supply. This principle applies to things like bottled water in a hurricane scenario - someone has to keep stock and without any profit motive, why would they?
  

  This is correct. I believe the Canadians did the same when there was over production of their Maple Syrup that almost ruined the whole industry. They had to control the production and price to make sure the business model is sustainable. That pissed off some people though

  Even the JW had to cut cost, magazine reduction and massive lay offs in order to stay in business.