Posts by Spiral

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I'll be speaking at Columbia University next weekend, meetup to follow....

by dubstepped in

so i'll be speaking on a panel as part of the "when rights and religions collide" event next saturday, october 19. if you'd like to attend you can learn more here:https://rightsandreligions.com/.

i'm also going to host a meetup on sunday if any of you are in the nyc area.

i'm still putting the finishing touches on the details but if you'd like to join in and meet myself, my wife, and a few people that listen to the shunned podcast or that are in my facebook group called by the same name shoot me a private message soon.

Spiral

Yes! Please keep us posted, and if there's anything recorded, I'd love to hear it.

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From ABC News - Australia

by no-zombie in

this morning, this article appeared on our national online news channel; the abc.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-10/jehovahs-witness-abuse-exposed/11561776.

no-zombie.

Spiral

I agree, I don't think back in the day they ever considered they'd be caught out on anything, much less child sexual abuse. And if they join the scheme, what will the publishers say? You'd have to be totally clueless not to understand that these events did happen and the bOrg is having to deal with the fact they did nothing at the time - wait, it's worse - they went into full denial mode. Plus, they really could care less about the victims. Publishing magazine articles proves nothing.

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave......"

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JW.Org data

by snare&racket in

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to think they have hung the blue and white sign on every building they own in the world and that this was a publicity campaign with the presumed backing of the god of the universe....... it's not going well.. despite the 8.5 million followers, who through design have to visit the site......it isn't even in the top ten..... top fifty..... top one hundred ......top two hundred visited sites globally.. users on average click through 7 pages per visit and don't stay long, averaging about a minute a page.. as for the data on its search over time 'jw.org' is now googled globally at a rate less than 25% of its peak and is usually associated for a search for the daily text.. .

between this and the carts, the only message getting through to real people is 'child abuse' and that woman from king of queens taking an interest!.

i sincerely think we are seeing evidence of what has been anecdotal decline...... waited long enough for it!.

Spiral

iwantoutnow:

Its a JW delusion like so many others.

I had a JW friend who is 1/2 in 1/2 out and still will talk to me tell me once "that JW.org is the envy of the world" (fyi he is a programmer and should know better), I had to take him to task on it and ask him what evidence does he have to say that, and what about the site is any better than a nice blog.

Of course there was none and he recanted.

THAT sounds exactly what some of the JWs say here because that's the propaganda they've been fed. When I hear that sort of talk I just arch my eyebrow and say nothing. What's disturbing is that I can see not all of them are fooled but they still choose to repeat the nonsense.

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Interesting news - Supreme court throws out case against Watchtower.

by pleaseresearch in

so my mum sent me this link, i need to speak to her about how she feels about this.

maybe she didn't even read it.

but the website looks to pro jw.

Spiral

Where is this from? The spelling and grammar is way off.

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Where are the funds going to come from? Warwick Expansion

by HiddenPimo in

so with the news that they are remodeling patterson and expanding warwick, where are the funds going to come from?.

could this be a ruse like the need for thousands of kingdom halls proclaimed a few years back only to be replaced with the we realized the halls were not at capacity and the great sell-off began?.

maybe the hope is going to be that the sheep will give give give and then all of the sudden, after prayerful consideration the gb have determined that the current resources are sufficient to create the needed media and content.. my bet is that in 10 years it will all be consolidated to warwick and walkill and patterson will be sold to who i have no idea, but they own a ton of property in upstate ny..

Spiral

All those people of retirement age need a nice community with nursing services, to take care of them until they die. They'll call it an "expansion" to get donations, but I think a big part of it could just be feathering the nest for their "golden years".

Of course, the sheeple have nothing of the sort.

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New building

by asp59 in

you think the new building addition to warwick ,that will house 1000 audiovisual and art production volunteers is a push to go online with the meetings?

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Spiral

I wonder if they are sending people to school to learn these skills. Free education and training! (For the special ones.)

Meanwhile, the others are still cleaning windows and houses for their living.

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New building

by asp59 in

you think the new building addition to warwick ,that will house 1000 audiovisual and art production volunteers is a push to go online with the meetings?

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Spiral

The Fall Guy: Methinks the string-pullers within the WTBTS could be preparing to "restructure" the modus operandi of the cult. When something smells, expect changes.

If the org is going to survive as a realistic business, the dumbing-down of faithful JW's must continue, with continual warnings about the dangers of the internet and the media.

Yep, I smell a business model taking shape here, done at the expense of the average JW, who is clueless. They'll pay to build the infrastructure, and see nothing for it. Sad thing is, they'll all be excited about this privilege.

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WTS Carts Have Competition

by blondie in

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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2019/09/in-virginia-american-atheists-upstage-jehovahs-witnesses/.

according to american atheists, their organisation had received multiple complaints that the jws were proselytising outside various government facilities.. said aa’s virginia state director larry mendoza:.

we would rather that government property be free of religious speech altogether.

Spiral

Awesome.

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Article: Fresno, California JW elder sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl

by AndersonsInfo in

subject: fresno, ca jw elder sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl sept. 20, 2019 https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article235306577.html.

fresno, ca church elder makes plea deal in sex abuse case | the fresno bee.

a 45-year-old fresno man, who worked as a police dispatcher in madera, pleaded no contest on friday to charges he sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl from his church.

Spiral

Interesting, this:

"Fresno police began investigating Ramos after receiving an anonymous tip."

Maybe, just maybe, someone in the congregation got smart and bypassed the elders (and the "holy spirit") and went straight to the police. I hope that starts a trend.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Came to My Neighborhood

by Juan Viejo2 in

for nearly two years i have not seen any jehovah's witnesses going door to door in my neighborhood.

that was not the case when my wife and i first moved here (north central oregon).

in fact, our neighborhood was visited at least once every 4 to 5 months - even in the coldest winter months.

Spiral

I've had two door-to-door visits in 4 plus years. They don't hang around long, even when (TV going, door open) it's obvious someone is home.

I once knew a pioneer sister who told me (and not in jest) that she started her time the minute she started putting her pantyhose on. Another I know gets up and immediately sends a text message to an "interested person" and then starts her time. Total time counted, several hours. Conversations, zero.