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  Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

  by slimboyfat in

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  sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

  i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

  a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

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  I have heard that before out in service and at the hall. Usually, it was from a JW that was barely making it but was too "spiritual" (aka stubborn) to go out and get a real job.

  One brother used to give talks where he'd always put down successful "worldly" people, as in they can't be really happy and they must be working non-stop to have the nice house and car, etc. (Really???)

  Meanwhile, he was frequently unemployed or working at minimum wage jobs, because he was just too hard to get along with. But, he always blamed "this system" for being against him, and he was going to have it all in the "new system" (and have his revenge). Ugh!

  Overall, I think a lot of JWs said things like that and didn't even realize how wacky it sounds. Of course, this was years ago, perhaps it's not as prevalent now. But it says something about the mindset.
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  JWs not so new format for getting across their message . . .

  by Coded Logic in

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  god is going to fix everything.

  you would just not believe how great he is going to make it.

  it's going to be the greatest.

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  OMG that just made my afternoon!!!
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  What Religious Trajectory Are The JWs Following?

  by millie210 in

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  i was reading another thread and the comments got me thinking.... https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5656910430732288/pictures-tell-thousand-words.

  comments such as oldskools: more like digital colonialism channeled through one of the weaker and less important institutions western society has to offer.. .

  some have compared the orgs future path to the world wide church of gods.

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  I do see a parallel between the Catholic Church collecting properties and monies and becoming rich (forget that vow of poverty idea) and then becoming the one and only approved faith (or, the one and only "true" faith in our time). It was a struggle for them in the first couple of centuries.

  I also think the religious side of the org is a cover for the business side - a real estate and investment pyramid scheme. Only, in this scheme, the income only flows in one direction - up.

  Does anyone remember the phone card MLM scheme that was so prevalent say, 25 years ago? The phone cards were expensive, and they weren't important, because the real deal was buying a spot in this pyramid and making some $$$$. The product didn't matter. Alot of JWs fell for it.

  I think the org is like that now - the product (religion, feel good, you're gonna be in paradise) is not as important as the income flow. Plenty of people (even in New York) try to ignore the obvious fact that the org is now mostly a real estate investment scheme/franchise.

  And yes, Warwick=Vatican.
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  Just wondering ....

  by talesin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are many new posters here, and i'm very interested to learn why you chose your screen names.. .

  one book i read, the mists of avalon, was very important to me.

  among the main characters was merlin, who in the book, was called "taliesen".

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  Images of spirals have been around since humanity started, many cultures use it in their art. It's in nature and in math.

  So by JW standards it would have to be a pagan symbol. Sold!
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  JW.org videos....look like....

  by Anders Andersen in

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  .... i just looked through some videos on the scientology and the mormon youtube channels.animated whiteboard animations, bad acting, compelling music...it's all the same as jw.org...or the other way around.the similarity is very striking to me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjomvjadbghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxf3pwvjoka.

  i wonder why that is....

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  sparrowdown31 minutes ago

  Same shit different assholes.

  Same kool-aid different flavour.

  Same mind-mushing propoganda different cult.

  ...I could go on all day with this, it's quite fun....

  Love it.

  Sad thing is, all the JWs I know think the society has the best website ever! Nothing else compares to it!

  Really, people??????

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  Cover of the September 2016 Watchtower.

  by jwfacts in

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  the cover of the 2016 september watchtower has an islander couple preaching.

  the brother looks like he may be fijian in a traditional skirt standing in a river, doing a presentation on an apple ipad.

  i can't imagine there are many families that can afford an ipad in the pacific islands.

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  Photoshopped, and more than a little..... ugh. I think the GB thinks everyone likes to watch cartoons. They treat all their followers like how they think children want to be treated.

  As mentioned elsewhere, creeeeeeepy!
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  JWs Letters Target Recently Bereaved

  by steve2 in

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  current media attention in new zealand is focusing on the case of a woman whose male friend died three months.

  she received a handwritten letter personally addressed to her and her deceased friend with a series of questions about what happens after death.

  the woman was furious and, accompanied by news media, door-knocked the address provided by the letter writer.

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  Dagney2 hours ago

  They are so removed for normal, human emotions they cannot see how creeeepy this really is.

  Eeewww.

  I have asked this question. The response? "Well, don't people want to know their loved ones aren't in heaven?"

  Really????

  
  

  
  
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  JWs Letters Target Recently Bereaved

  by steve2 in

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  current media attention in new zealand is focusing on the case of a woman whose male friend died three months.

  she received a handwritten letter personally addressed to her and her deceased friend with a series of questions about what happens after death.

  the woman was furious and, accompanied by news media, door-knocked the address provided by the letter writer.

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  *** yb95 p. 47 Worldwide Report ***
  

  Now 94, she is still busy witnessing. Recently she completed a year of auxiliary pioneer service. She is able to walk a little with a cane—enough to take advantage of the opportunities presented when neighbors, friends, relatives, salesmen, postmen, or anyone else calls. Still she has to do most of her witnessing with a pen. She finds names and addresses in the obituary columns in the daily paper and writes to some of these. How happy she is when replies of appreciation come!

  I don't ever remember hearing any of the letter writers getting a response, much less "replies of appreciation".
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  JWs Letters Target Recently Bereaved

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  current media attention in new zealand is focusing on the case of a woman whose male friend died three months.

  she received a handwritten letter personally addressed to her and her deceased friend with a series of questions about what happens after death.

  the woman was furious and, accompanied by news media, door-knocked the address provided by the letter writer.

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  Yes, back "in the day" writing letters to families from obituary ads was common place. At one point in our congregation a change was made in procedure, to put the KH address as the return address, in case the person was upset (they wouldn't know where you lived). Eventually, the letters were written but only signed as "from your neighbor" or "from the local congregation of JWs" or something like that.

  I can remember passing out tracts at cemeteries too, which seemed really inappropriate to me when I became an adult.
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  My 2016 RC Experience

  by wannabefree in

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  i'm at the water park with my five year old in green bay.

  she was so happy to be spared another boring day like she endured at thursday's propaganda feast with her mother.

  after breakfast we drove by the convention site.

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  If you use the old lingo they know you're a fader or "apostate".