Spiral

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  A brother repeated a "rumor" from the platform last night.

  by NikL in

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  i seem to remember many talks and articles in the past about repeating rumors.last night before going into the book study the conductor said something to the effect, "i heard a rumor and i don't know if it's true but the rumor is that in the future we will be using only;y videos at the door.".

  anyone else heard this "rumor"?.

  and whats up with repeating rumors from the platform?

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  Spiral

  Don't know if it's true or not, but I've also heard that. Perhaps they are hoping they won't have to ever talk to anyone any more. Wishful thinking?
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  Do you think I should get something for my wife for her birthday?

  by schnell in

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  my wife is still nominally in, but only because it "makes me (her) happy".

  there is nothing academic about her beliefs and when i try, she interprets me as negative.. but then she cusses like a sailor and watches certain movies with me.

  her birthday is coming up and it's also right around valentine's day.

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  Yes. JWs never get a "special day" (even if you don't call it that). Don't give it to her precisely on her birthday. I think a lot of JWs would love to have holidays they just don't admit it. That was one of the first things we started doing once we lived in a different state from family.
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  US vs THEM

  by Anders Andersen in

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  i still remember that feeling.

  thank god it's gone for good.

  i used to be part of us witnesses.

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  Freedom! It's wonderful, congratulations.
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  King of the South and that stuff

  by punkofnice in

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  2. bible

  i see that the uk prime monster t may is going to see the pressy of the usa whos name means 'fart' here in brit land.

  i have my own views on those people, in fact authority in general.

  but i ramble as we old people tend to do.. i wonder how long before jobos are saying; 'ooooh, look.

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  I haven't either but since they disavowed alot of their interpretations of prophecy, I think everyone is either a) confused; b) disinterested in the Kings of the North and South. Even my friend who used to be an expert in prophecies (she kept a notebook, etc.) hasn't said a peep.
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  A question for those who still go to the meetings

  by no-zombie in

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  2. beliefs

  and it is ... why do most at the hall prefer to sit at the back and leave front rows empty?.

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  Spiral

  How else can I read my latest book (on kindle) on my tablet and not be noticed? lol
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  Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂

  by Gorbatchov in

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  gorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.

  just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.

  the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.

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  menrovan hour ago

  I wonder why the WBTS decide to revisit these old doctrines. What is the added value of doing this? They run the risk that more JW's get confused and leave. And I do not see how these revised or clarified old doctrines increase the faith of the readers.

  The only reason I can think of is that influential people around or closer to the gb members are sometimes raising issues (inconsistencies) with these old doctrines. Why else would they bother? Who in todays congregation is ever interested about what happened then, with Russell and Rutherford.....

  Any ideas?

  That's what I keep wondering..... I've never understood why they keep bringing up 1918-1919 and tweaking their interpretation of imaginary events. They should just let it go. My thought is this is something that most JWs don't really care about, so when it changes it's met with a shrug.
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  Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  gorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.

  just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.

  the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.

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  This article is just a mash-up of the usual bits they want to continue to repeat to the rank and file. From the outside looking in you wonder why anyone would believe this stuff .... any church could claim (and most do claim) they were chosen by God.

  But I found this tidbit interesting in p14: "Many who thirsted for Bible truth fled to countries where the influence of the church was less pervasive. They wanted to read and study and converse with one another without being told what to think".

  All JWs have to study the WT version of their history over and over again, and yet, if someone wants to converse with someone without being told what to think..... well, we all know how that works. I am always shocked (I shouldn't be, I know) by how gullible people (and people I know and like, who I know are smart in other ways) can be.
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  Are baptized Witnesses that are no longer in the "truth", but were NEVER DF'D, now to be shunned and treated like disfellowshipped ones?

  by Dunedain in

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  a relative of mine was telling me, that in his, and a few neighboring congregations, there is a little confusion amongst some of the jw's about this "issue".

  some families are having a hard time about whether certain relatives will be attending certain family functions, because some family members that are no longer in the "truth", might be invited to these functions.

  mind you, these persons were never disfellowshipped.

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  Vidiot5 hours ago

  Spiral - "A lot of faded people are in business, etc., in this town so the JWs talk to them like nothing is changed..."

  Of course that's happening.

  Why else do you think the GB is reminding them not to?

  @Vidiot - yes, and that's the strange.....amusing.... (not sure what to call it) thing about it. From what I understand, officially from the bOrg it's all "don't have association with them" but on the "street" nothing has changed. One elder even let one of these faded/living a bad life work on his house (fine with me but that used to be a "no-no" UGH). And yet from some I keep hearing about how the society is getting more modern and enlightened. It's as if everyone hears the talks and reads the magazines differently, to their own tastes. It really seems a bit bizarre to me.
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  Are baptized Witnesses that are no longer in the "truth", but were NEVER DF'D, now to be shunned and treated like disfellowshipped ones?

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a relative of mine was telling me, that in his, and a few neighboring congregations, there is a little confusion amongst some of the jw's about this "issue".

  some families are having a hard time about whether certain relatives will be attending certain family functions, because some family members that are no longer in the "truth", might be invited to these functions.

  mind you, these persons were never disfellowshipped.

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  It's hard to say, where I am at present it seems to go both ways. A lot of faded people are in business, etc., in this town so the JWs talk to them like nothing is changed. There are a few cranky "die hard" types that won't talk to them but most still do.
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  Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

  by Spoletta in

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  2. beliefs

  my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

  she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

  anyone else pick up on this?

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  I heard of a time that sisters were allowed to hand out new publications at an assembly..... but under the "guidance" of a brother. (Seriously, what possible guidance could be needed?)

  However...... I do hear some dissatisfaction from some sisters. Let's face it, you can run your own company, your household, hold a good job, and yet at the KH you are treated like a child. But you better go out in service several hours a month.

  This situation probably does cause another effect, that of less and less young sisters becoming JWs, at least in places like the US. ALSO - some sisters are getting really tired getting stuck in unhappy marriages. I have been hearing this complaint from time to time.

  And the wearing of a tea towel or other item on your head is just a joke, lots of sisters think so.

  So, would they throw the sisters a little "treat" (UGH) to keep them happy? IDK......

  Won't be me, in any case.