Posts by Spiral

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here's a great jw brain stumper about noah

by nowwhat? in

8 years ago

so noah was a preacher of righteousness.

than how did he warn other pockets of civilizations that were hundreds or thousands of miles away?

and if they were destroyed anyway i thought jehovah only acts after he gives clear warning.. and if there were no other civilzations why the need to destroy the entire earth of every living creature?

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

This was one of the first things that made me realize the Bible was just a collection of stories. Archaeologists keep coming up with more finds of early human inhabitation all over the world that predate the dating of the flood story.

I've asked JWs on occasion if Noah was able to travel to Eqypt and Africa, for instance, to preach to all those people before the flood.

You just get a blank stare, or they try to say that the dating of these civilizations is inaccurate (this is what the society has said, therefore it must be true).

Mostly, though, I have gotten no response. You can lead a horse to water....

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Something that doesn't get discussed all that much...

by Vidiot in

8 years ago

...but i believe is relevant:.

just how much is the watchtower organization's "business model" dependent on its tax-exempt status?.

is it truly sustainable without it?.

6 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

Good question. Of course they are keen on keeping it, being that it's also part of the whole "we're a real religion" sham. If governments ever started to really examine them and tax them, I think they might just fail, at least in any country taxing them.

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What's up with the numbering of the songs and reading them off the screen?

by Spiral in

8 years ago

i don't have to go very often, but last time i took my mother they were singing songs off a screen.

the numbers weren't the same as the songs with the same number on my tablet.

seemed like a lot of people were confused, but a couple of more gregarious attendees were singing (and swaying a bit) "church-style".

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

It does seem so fundamentalist churchy and really mindless. I could see that some in the congregation would like it to be even more so. But, the singing was really awful because no one seemed to know the songs and some (like me) kept trying to find the songs on their tablets.

if I have to go again (hope not) I will check for the newest songbook (hate downloading that cr*p onto my tablet) but it strikes me as really odd that there is confusion over something so basic as the song book. Renumbering and rearranging songs like they are, makes you wonder what the goal is. Wait.... could it be...... brainwashing? sheesh!

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What's up with the numbering of the songs and reading them off the screen?

by Spiral in

8 years ago

i don't have to go very often, but last time i took my mother they were singing songs off a screen.

the numbers weren't the same as the songs with the same number on my tablet.

seemed like a lot of people were confused, but a couple of more gregarious attendees were singing (and swaying a bit) "church-style".

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

I don't have to go very often, but last time I took my mother they were singing songs off a screen. The numbers weren't the same as the songs with the same number on my tablet. Does anyone know what is up with that? Seemed like a lot of people were confused, but a couple of more gregarious attendees were singing (and swaying a bit) "church-style". Something new?

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JW.ORG Now requires personal address

by AverageJoe1 in

8 years ago

logging on to the user area access today, there appeared a message saying that they now require a postal and physical home address to attach to your profile, with a note saying that the branch may change the details as they see fit.

this raises several questions in my mind:.

why would they need to have your physical address on file?.

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

Why exactly would some one need to create a login? Is there more information available once you have an account? Just wondering.

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Ex-JW's on NPR

by Mum in

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8 years ago

yesterday i was listening to the radio at work as usual.

i listen to npr (national public radio) on most days.

there was a report about some ex-jw's who were "daring to dream" again.

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

It's also circulating on FB, posted last night under the NPR banner. "Lack of Education Leads to Lost Dreams and Low Income for Many Jehovah's Witnesses", lead line is "The view that higher education is spiritually dangerous is very common among many Jehovah's Witnesses." Quotes AM3 as well.

Well written, I hope they write more! I think I'll FM message NPR and request exactly that!

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Back again to say hi! Life update after walking away from the cult.

by Darkknight757 in

8 years ago

i hope all is well.

my last post over a month ago was going to be the last considering i wanted to get away from all things jw but this place is much harder to ignore than previously thought.

life has taken some very interesting turns since late last year.

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

Congratulations, and good for your both, now contributing to the community and to your new and improved life!

Living well is the best revenge. And I would say, no, I don't want revenge. But living well also shows the JWs that everything they've heard about the outside world being disastrous is just false propaganda. I hope your family members see that.

And again, congratulations on the new job, full life and on the new babies!!!!!

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Stranger asks about your kids mental wellness. ..

by purrpurr in

8 years ago

last night at the meeting there was a suggested presentation about the new mags, which cover the issue of depression in minors.

the jw jumps straight from "hi how are ya" to "how is your kids mental well-being " and of course the hh is more than happy to discuss the inner workings of their child's mind with a stranger whose just knockedmon their door(!).

if it was me i'd be majorly creeper out!.

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

I actually had a couple of JWs at my door the other afternoon, caught me totally by surprise. They didn't know me so it gave me an opportunity to just listen and look at the situation from the householder's perspective.

My reaction was...... what the heck??? what strangeness is this??? why would someone come to the door and ask this question to a stranger???

Wait, I used to do this..... no wonder people think JWs are nuts. It made me realize just how far removed from reality the JWs are.

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Witnesses really hate it when you appear to leave.

by schnell in

8 years ago

i have a certain customer, whom we will call sally.

i know sally only by face and only through work.

i am a truck driver on a local dedicated route, and i often deliver to her work.

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

It's that damn beard, Schnell!

I can't tell you how many guys in the bOrg want a beard, but can't have one. A lot of sisters like them too. (Same goes for tattoos.)

BUT - they have to act all "loyal" (oh man I hate that word these days) and be all superior to you because you have left and have a beard and are happy and they are just sad and bitter.

Mr. Spiral has a beard too, it's quite handsome. I am certain yours is too.

Living well is the best revenge!

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A brother repeated a "rumor" from the platform last night.

by NikL in

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8 years ago

i seem to remember many talks and articles in the past about repeating rumors.last night before going into the book study the conductor said something to the effect, "i heard a rumor and i don't know if it's true but the rumor is that in the future we will be using only;y videos at the door.".

anyone else heard this "rumor"?.

and whats up with repeating rumors from the platform?

8 years ago

Spiral 8 years ago

Don't know if it's true or not, but I've also heard that. Perhaps they are hoping they won't have to ever talk to anyone any more. Wishful thinking?

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