I will start this thread after my own thread about jwfacts has been settled once and for all. I simply do not have the time to engage in multiple lengthy discussions at the same time, sorry.
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Recovery - does your yes mean yes or not?
by tootired2care inrecovery, .
here http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/238054/4/the-bible-full-of-errors-and-inconsistencies#4493307 you stated:.
"i will start a thread addressing each allegation of actual substance.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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Addressing everyone shortly as I will soon be back at a computer.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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Unlike jwfacts and tootired2care and many other posters I write all my own arguments. I do not cut and paste but I spend many hours examining opposing claims and trying to get to the truth of the matter. I just know if I started a thread on 607/1914 and I danced around and sidetracked the issue like the posters, especially tootired2care and jwfacts and refused to address the most basic of arguments, I would definitely be ridiculed and called out for it.
Will anyone call jwfacts out? Nooo. Wait. We dont care about the truth. We dont care that jwfacts is merely an organized cut and paste of anti JW propaganda by exJWs. We dont even believe the Bible is accurate and we believe in the theory of evolution.
Hilarious.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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It is a blatant lie to say I dont understand others arguments. It was you who misinterpreted my argumenf into a strawman on two occassions. In case youve forgotten I can point these out for you. Now will you please point out where I failed to comprehend someones argument. I would love to see this.
And the 5 points continue unaddressed. Who really is the poor, illogical debator who cant understand arguments?
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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Yes jwfacta has definitely thoroughly debunked me and all my arguments so effortlessly. And my mother is chimpanzee who will one day evolve into a whale.
Excuse the typos. Typing from phone. Will return in the afternoon.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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Make another thread about that. I do not wish to engage in such discussions that will take this thread into a different issue that willy muddy the waters so to speak.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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I have made no personal attacks. I am merely exposing the root of the tree of apostate arguments online. I just dont know why he refuses to defend himself. Someone who invests so much time into researching this information wont even defend his own writings.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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Yes I believe the earth will last forever.
Yes my post about evolution was sarcasm (I actually have an extensive background with evolution) but I thought that was pretty obvious.
Of course I gave yiu a poor answer. All yiu want to do is argue over words and WT quotes. I do not take the WT as an infallible guide that will never contain errors, logical fallacies or even human opinions. Why? Because that is what imperfect humans do. Thank God we dont have a substantial collection of noninspired Christian writings because scholars and atheists alike would be doing what you are doing.
So jwfacts will yiu address the other points I made or do you want to continue the diversionary tactics.
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This must be true because nothing else fits
by biometrics inso elder x came over the other day to convince me about why jehovah's witnesses have 1914 correct.
i wrote about this some time ago, but the elder never returned.
he caught me off-guard, and unprepared.. he went through the reasoning book (p95), and pointed out all the reaons (day for a year, daniel, 360 days, 2520 ...).
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Because it is made up of imperfect men. Look at the apostles. Read 1 Corinthians and Peters letters and Revelation 2 and 3 and see how many flaws God people had.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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Oh yes. Whales evolved from squirrels and monkeys who then jumped into the ocean for some unknown reason and then developed into whales. And by the way your uncle is a monkey, literally.
Wow jwfacts. i expected more from you. You seem to be more interested in dabbling over words than scriptures. We cant change settings because John didnt say we did. All we can go by is what John wrote down and he is very specific when he changes settings. Your argument about the four corners of the earth is weak and a poor rebuttal.
Jehovah did not lie about anything. If there were any misnomers, it was mans error, not his. Now yiu still have 5 more posts to address.