Posts by Tallon

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Can JWs vote?

by NikL in

i finally found the questions from readers i was looking for.. from nov 1, 1999 wt .

it says.... questions from readershow do jehovah’s witnesses view voting?there are clear principles set out in the bible that enable servants of god to take a proper view of this matter.

however, there appears to be no principle against the practice of voting itself.

Tallon

In JW land only the men can vote , elders vote MS into positions , elders vote for appointment and deletion of elders , the GB vote each resolution needing a 66% pass. They ask publishers to vote for resolution for more money , they just can't vote for a pagan who will give them subsidised health , fix roads ,education or any other thing that they can winge about.

Spot on Chook

... and dont forget that annoited females cant vote either even though they can rule in heaven with JC?, and they have no say in congregation matters or sit on the Governing Body? ...

Smiddy, It's absolutely crazy. Makes no sense at all.

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Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

by _Morpheus in

had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

I remember back in the 80's when the JDub's (in the country I lived in at the time) used to slag off Jimmy Swaggart for his 'tele-evangelism'. Here we are in 2017, and the JDubs are doing the same thing with JW TV, videos etc.

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Reached a milestone today!

by Bungi Bill in

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today represents for me something of a milestone.

after breaking both bones in my lower left leg nearly four months ago, i am now able to walk without the aid of crutches.

also, the orthopedic specialist has cleared me to once more drive a motor vehicle.

Tallon

Fantastic news Bungi; best wishes for a full recovery.

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I Give Up!

by pale.emperor in

im giving up guys.

i've reached the end of my patience and now i finally refuse to waste any more time on part-time witnesses.

i've text all of my active jw family members and told them to delete my number from their phone and never contact me again.

Tallon

Hi PE

Sorry to read of your predicament. You have done all you can mate, so it's time back off. The ball is now firmly in his court.

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Dealing with Loneliness and Social Anxiety

by NoviceLocs14 in

hello, this is my 1st initiated post on this site, so i'm a bit nervous.

i did search for similar topics on this site, but a lot of them have been inactive for several years, so here goes.... a little background, i was pretty much born in "da twoof", baptized at 17, pioneered for about 6 years, was part of the rbc part time, and was even in the foreign language field for the last 3 years i was a jw.

so i pretty much had a pretty active social life within the organization due to being part of all of those things.

Tallon

Hi Novice.

First of all, welcome to the forum.

Do you enjoy sport activities? If you do, maybe you could join a club or leisure centre. It is a great way to meet other people and enjoy life. You could ask your husband join you in this.

Wishing you all the best.

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7 day conventions?

by HereIgo in

did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?

i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.

i couldn't imagine.

Tallon

A bit before my time JW wise. The longest conventions I attended were the 4 day events.

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Deborah Layton - Jonestown Survivor

by Tallon in

saw this on the exjw reddit forum - very thought provoking.. "when your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused, for the ends never justify the means.. when our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.. when we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult .... when family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organisation, something has gone terribly wrong".. deborah layton.

seductive poison: a jonestown survivor's story of life and death in the people's temple.. .

Tallon

Saw this on the exJW Reddit forum - very thought provoking.

"When your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused, for the ends never justify the means.
When our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.
When we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult ...
When family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organisation, something has gone terribly wrong".
Deborah Layton
Seductive Poison: A Jonestown Survivor's Story of Life and Death in the People's Temple.

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New Here

by Red.tomato in

hi everyone, this is my first post .. it takes a little bit of courage to do it, i have to admit and even thought i have been lurking for some time as time goes by it gets more and more difficult to keep attending meetings and just been around the friends in the congregation.

ever since i learned about the arc something inside of me just broke and it feels pretty hollow, now i pay attention to every single form of manipulation in every direction, what difference it makes with the catholic church or with any other religions ?

i wonder why the publishers are under obligation to report about their lives and decisions to the elders but they don´t keep informed the congregation about what´s going on legally other than russia.

Tallon

Hi Red tomato; and a warm welcome from me too.

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What woke you up?

by MrRoboto in

for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

Tallon

Hi Flipper

Many thanks for your kind words. My wife is definitely in a better place however, it is an ongoing process.

Best wishes to you and your family.

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What woke you up?

by MrRoboto in

for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

Tallon

I've mentioned this some time back on another thread. My wife became seriously ill due to having a major breakdown. I was at my wits end trying to hold everything together and turned to my so called bookstudy conductor at the time for support. He literally turned against me and refused to offer any form of help.

I then thought screw it, lost all interest in 'the truth' and began my fade. It was during this period that I began looking at 'apostate' websites. The scales literally fell from my eyes when I became aware of all the shenanigans going on.

How could I have been fooled for so long.